Plaschke: "Clippers poised to extend contract of coach Doc Rivers"

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#1 May 5, 2018 3:10pm
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Plaschke: "Clippers poised to extend contract of coach Doc Rivers"

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For the sake of a stable beginning of a new era, it was important that these two men eventually meet somewhere in the middle.

Three weeks later, it appears they have.

Although nothing has been made official, all indications are that Rivers and Ballmer have reached an agreement on a multiyear extension that will keep Rivers here for a remodeling job that will begin soon.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-clippers-rivers-plaschke-20180505-story.html

There you have it. Ballmer is Doc's puppet, confirmed. We will never win anything until Ballmer sells the team.

 

May 5, 2018 3:40pm
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oh no I though he would get fired this season. 

May 5, 2018 3:42pm
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Next up: Austin opts out and gets another wildly overpaid contract from the Clippers. This team is a joke.

May 5, 2018 4:55pm
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Ballmer is such a sucker. It's only gonna cost him more now when he finally does kick Doc to the curb. This only strengthens VFHS. Give 'em hell.

May 5, 2018 5:13pm
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I am gonna disagree with the consensus here. Jerry west had to get behind this. Doc did a great job with a generally shit roster. Will be surprised if Austin is given a big contract. Doc will now see if he can do a rebuild. His biggest failure was poor locker room mgmt but I think he may learn from his mistakes
May 5, 2018 5:17pm
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angelfan1958 wrote:
I am gonna disagree with the consensus here. Jerry west had to get behind this. Doc did a great job with a generally shit roster. Will be surprised if Austin is given a big contract. Doc will now see if he can do a rebuild. His biggest failure was poor locker room mgmt but I think he may learn from his mistakes
Doc has been a head coach for how long? He's not changing. Doing things his way, as incompetent as his way is, has enabled him to con three NBA franchises into giving him their head coaching job. The Clippers are now rewarding him for five years of declining results with a multi-year contract extension. It's beyond obvious that nothing will ever convince Ballmer to fire him. What incentive does he have to learn from his mistakes?
May 5, 2018 5:18pm
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Oh, and Ballmer WILL give Austin a big contract, don't kid yourself. Doc will talk him into it.
May 5, 2018 8:25pm
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Welp. Glad the Chargers are on the rise.
May 5, 2018 8:28pm
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Let's hope this is a negotiation tactic to get a concession from another team.

May 5, 2018 9:28pm
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gilp5 wrote:

Let's hope this is a negotiation tactic to get a concession from another team.

LOL. When it's opening day and Doc's on the sidelines "coaching" the Clippers, you guys will still be telling yourselves it's all part of the long con to trade him for a draft pick. Time to wake up to reality: Ballmer is Doc's puppet.

May 5, 2018 9:28pm
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Clipps wrote:
Welp. Glad the Chargers are on the rise.

Really? Did they move back to San Diego with new ownership?

May 5, 2018 11:16pm
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VFHS wrote:

gilp5 wrote:

Let's hope this is a negotiation tactic to get a concession from another team.

LOL. When it's opening day and Doc's on the sidelines "coaching" the Clippers, you guys will still be telling yourselves it's all part of the long con to trade him for a draft pick. Time to wake up to reality: Ballmer is Doc's puppet.

I am not happy we're signing Doc again.

I do not think Ballmer is Doc's puppet, and it's an idiotic conspiracy theory that makes you look like a jackass every time you spout it, VFHS. Ballmer just likes Doc as a coach. That's not the same as being Doc's puppet. 

May 6, 2018 12:58am
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WTF... Man I thought we were close to riidding ourselves of the neoptism stigma once and for all. Now thisno

May 6, 2018 1:12am
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VFHS wrote:

Clipps wrote:
Welp. Glad the Chargers are on the rise.

Really? Did they move back to San Diego with new ownership?

Nope and nope. They are on the rise, though. I hear the Rams have a really shitty ownership too. They look great all of a sudden.

May 6, 2018 7:23am
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Plaschke has always been a dick with the Clippers. Why does he support this move, especially since he is the Lakers' puppet (they own his newspaper)?

May 6, 2018 7:49am
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Clipps wrote:

VFHS wrote:

Clipps wrote:
Welp. Glad the Chargers are on the rise.

Really? Did they move back to San Diego with new ownership?

Nope and nope. They are on the rise, though. I hear the Rams have a really shitty ownership too. They look great all of a sudden.

Meh. The Spanos family will screw it up. They always do. Sadly, Ballmer is in that category of owners too.
May 6, 2018 7:50am
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ClipperSisyphus wrote:

Plaschke has always been a dick with the Clippers. Why does he support this move, especially since he is the Lakers' puppet (they own his newspaper)?

Doc sucks up to the media, so they'll always take his side without even a hint of objectivity. Plus, of course Laker shills are going to support a decision that is bad for the Clippers.
May 6, 2018 8:31am
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VFHS wrote:
Clipps wrote:

VFHS wrote:

Clipps wrote:
Welp. Glad the Chargers are on the rise.

Really? Did they move back to San Diego with new ownership?

Nope and nope. They are on the rise, though. I hear the Rams have a really shitty ownership too. They look great all of a sudden.

Meh. The Spanos family will screw it up. They always do. Sadly, Ballmer is in that category of owners too.

Until then, I'm excited about football instead of being a whiney little bitch like you.

May 6, 2018 11:44am
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Mistwell wrote:

VFHS wrote:

gilp5 wrote:

Let's hope this is a negotiation tactic to get a concession from another team.

LOL. When it's opening day and Doc's on the sidelines "coaching" the Clippers, you guys will still be telling yourselves it's all part of the long con to trade him for a draft pick. Time to wake up to reality: Ballmer is Doc's puppet.

I am not happy we're signing Doc again.

I do not think Ballmer is Doc's puppet, and it's an idiotic conspiracy theory that makes you look like a jackass every time you spout it, VFHS. Ballmer just likes Doc as a coach. That's not the same as being Doc's puppet. 

 

Well if he got demoted you would think that the next move would be to remove him... I think Doc told Ballmer to remove him so he could concentrate on coaching because he knew he couldn't handle both... which is another way of saying Ballmer is Doc's puppet

May 6, 2018 11:53am
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SamIAm19 wrote:

Well if he got demoted you would think that the next move would be to remove him... I think Doc told Ballmer to remove him so he could concentrate on coaching because he knew he couldn't handle both... which is another way of saying Ballmer is Doc's puppet

Well said. Also: when Doc continues to fail miserably as our "coach," he can now blame the front office for "not giving him the right players."

I'll admit that "puppet" might be the wrong word, though. Maybe "enabler" would be more accurate. Or "sucker."

May 6, 2018 12:05pm
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Well that's a bummer. Was kind of hoping Doc and Jr. were leaving together.

Now , if Doc stays as does Austin, you can write this team off for the foreseeable future.

Bad chemistry, man.

May 6, 2018 5:23pm
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There is no fucking way Doc told Ballmer to remove him from the Front Office, you guys are kidding yourselves. It's tough to have a coach on his last year so it was obvious he was going to have to be fired or extended. With Ballmer's money no extension gives him full job security though. 

May 6, 2018 6:01pm
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I still don't mind him as a coach. My problem with Doc is that I think he still has a lot of say on personnel decisions. I imagine he is the driving force behind the team not doing a full rebuild.
May 6, 2018 6:14pm
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FA’s will not come if Jr is still on team and Doc is the coach. So it’s either one or the other to be moved.
May 6, 2018 8:40pm
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V-Ice wrote:
FA’s will not come if Jr is still on team and Doc is the coach. So it’s either one or the other to be moved.
Doc ain't the gm so Austin may not stay. Am sure this will be made clear to him
May 6, 2018 9:17pm
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"We're going to trade Austin" is the new "we're going to trade Doc for a pick." Give it up, guys. We're stuck with Austin just like we're stuck with Doc.

May 6, 2018 10:54pm
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I can hope you're wrong

May 7, 2018 12:41am
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Dyce wrote:
I still don't mind him as a coach. My problem with Doc is that I think he still has a lot of say on personnel decisions. I imagine he is the driving force behind the team not doing a full rebuild.

 

He didn't want to stick around for the rebuilding in Boston, did he. Doc likes vets, he's not the player developper kind. He saw Chris Paul, Blake Griffin, DJ, and an owner with deep pockets and the grass looked much greener.

I think Doc probably looked around and saw how the Phil Jacksons and Pat Rileys of the world rode their waves to the top on the backs of HOF players and figured that was the coahing model for him.

No matter how lucky you are in life, sometimes you actually have to earn what you get.

May 7, 2018 8:49am
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Doc coached us to a winning season this year so he did a very good job coaching the team considering all the injuries we had.  Healthy Bradley, Beverley, and Gallinari and we would have made the playoffs.  So he did his job well.  But he still has another year left on his contract so I don't see that he did anything to warrant an extension.  Just because a coach does not like being a lame duck coach for a season does not mean you should extend him by three years for 36 million or something just to sooth his feelings.  We may very well want to fire Doc midway through next season and not having a contract extension would make that much easier to do.  Why give up that flexibility?  I think if we don't succeed with Doc we give Cassell a shot and we need to make that kind of move midseason so we don't bet a whole season on Sam not knowing how well he will coach.

May 7, 2018 9:02am
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CorkScrew wrote:

Dyce wrote:
I still don't mind him as a coach. My problem with Doc is that I think he still has a lot of say on personnel decisions. I imagine he is the driving force behind the team not doing a full rebuild.

 

He didn't want to stick around for the rebuilding in Boston, did he. Doc likes vets, he's not the player developper kind. He saw Chris Paul, Blake Griffin, DJ, and an owner with deep pockets and the grass looked much greener.

I think Doc probably looked around and saw how the Phil Jacksons and Pat Rileys of the world rode their waves to the top on the backs of HOF players and figured that was the coahing model for him.

No matter how lucky you are in life, sometimes you actually have to earn what you get.

 

He will stick around for this rebuild as long as his son is on the team.  He can rebuild the team to only function for giving Austin a chance at an all-star game.

May 7, 2018 9:38am
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Plaschke is a hack. 

I am not gonna comment on this until something official happens.

May 7, 2018 9:44am
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Isn't it ironic that Doc is getting praise for his coaching in a season where he was forced to play numerous rookies and young players extensive minutes (Montrez, Wilson, CJ, Wallace, Evans, Thornwell)  while numerous starting vets were out for really long periods (Beverly, Gallo, Milos, Blake traded)

May 7, 2018 9:59am
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Regardless of anything else Doc did as coach this year, he played his son 33+ minutes a game and even if Austin is less bad than he used to be, its still gives off the appearance of nepotism and conflict of interest and unremarkable player being gifted minutes while other players need to fight for them, a lot of players arent going to want to deal with that situation.
May 7, 2018 10:46am
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babyradar01 wrote:

Isn't it ironic that Doc is getting praise for his coaching in a season where he was forced to play numerous rookies and young players extensive minutes (Montrez, Wilson, CJ, Wallace, Evans, Thornwell)  while numerous starting vets were out for really long periods (Beverly, Gallo, Milos, Blake traded)

 

Which is why we did so much better than we expected

May 7, 2018 10:50am
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mannycoon wrote:
Regardless of anything else Doc did as coach this year, he played his son 33+ minutes a game and even if Austin is less bad than he used to be, its still gives off the appearance of nepotism and conflict of interest and unremarkable player being gifted minutes while other players need to fight for them, a lot of players arent going to want to deal with that situation.
This. If Ballmer thinks marquee free agents are going to sign on to the Doc and Austin Show, he's in for a rude awakening. Keeping Doc is tantamount to flushing the 2019 free agency plan down the toilet. Even beyond the nepotism, Doc has a bad reputation. Players talk, and no doubt they've all heard what Ray Allen had to say about Doc in his book and Arnovitz reported on in his article.
May 7, 2018 11:09am
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trapp76 wrote:

Plaschke is a hack. 

I am not gonna comment on this until something official happens.

The Clippers have yet to deny the story - and they've had plenty of time to deny it if it wasn't true.

May 11, 2018 8:51am
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Dwane Casey's win totals as Toronto's coach: 23, 34, 48, 49, 56, 51, 59.

Doc Rivers' win totals as the Clippers' coach: 57, 56, 53, 51, 42.

Somehow, Casey is the one getting fired while Doc gets a contract extension. What a joke.

May 11, 2018 8:55am
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This is good news.  We can and should hire Casey now.  That is a move that would make sense.  This guy is perfect for our team.  Doc hasn't been extended yet.  Now that we have guys available to replace him we should make the move.

May 11, 2018 9:00am
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Clippers1121 wrote:

Doc hasn't been extended yet.

Aldridge announced early last month that Doc was coming back. The Clippers never denied it.

Plaschke reported a week ago that Doc was getting an extension. The Clippers still haven't denied it.

Where's the proof that we aren't stuck with Doc for the foreseeable future? Every indication is that Ballmer actually thinks Doc is good enough.

May 11, 2018 9:10am
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Until an extension is formally announced there is no extension.  Let's hope the rumors are false and that the reality is that Ballmer is looking to make a change.  The thing that concerns me is that Jerry West endorsed Doc and said he was doing a great job so the rumors may be true.  Doc should be dumped though so we could get rid of Austin.  Its tough to dump the coaches son so if we extend Doc we probably will be forced to extend Austin also.

May 12, 2018 7:18pm
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Toronto fires Casey, lol

May 12, 2018 7:45pm
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We need to swoop in on Casey fast.

May 13, 2018 12:32pm
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We've passed on him already. It was down to him and Vinny Del Negro originally back in 2010. 

May 13, 2018 1:15pm
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Mistwell wrote:

We've passed on him already. It was down to him and Vinny Del Negro originally back in 2010. 

Different ownership.

May 14, 2018 11:17am
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I wouldn't go in that direction if we moved on from Doc, I'm not convinced he's a better coach. His in game coaching left a lot to be desired in that Cleveland series.