Mike Smith Out, Bruce Bowen In

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Oct 9, 2017 1:52pm
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Rhy1244 wrote:

trapp76 wrote:

I have been kind of surprised by Ralph's lack of empathy for Mike Smith being let go.

Ralph has always followed the company line.  He didn't say anything when Sterling refused to pay for that guys cancer payments.

 

"That guy" was Kim Hughes.

 

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Firemillen wrote:

We need Kareem or Ewing as an AC.  Our bigs need help.

Or Kim Hughes, he did an improbable job with Kaman. But I guess that's out since the cancer treatment incident...

Oct 10, 2017 7:51pm
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I don't think Ralph said a thing about Mike since the split, which is pretty telling. Or if he did I missed it as I haven't watched preseason. He did say how something about how much Clippers fans were going to love Bowen, who most have us have probably heard since he's done national games. I just don't see him as a guy who's going to be here long term. I think Mike was ok with them not being best of friends off the court, I wonder if there ever was an incident that Ralph could never get over.

Oct 11, 2017 8:19pm
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"I'd like to have a word with Sweet Jo's blow hole husband" slapping Ralph hard on the back after he had just started chewing a bite of steak

Oct 12, 2017 8:49am
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I'm just surprised they didn't do any kind of fond memories / tribute video during the first broadcast, highlighting the pair's best and funniest moments.

 

That would have helped quell some of the speculation.

Oct 13, 2017 8:55am
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tail end of the Kings game last night Ralph mentioned "fifteen year broadcast partner...Seattle...". Was hard to distinguish exactly what he said as was using my tv speakers due to the speaker bar being out and a generally bad audio, muddled mix from the Clipper broadcast producers. Not sure if he was talking about Walton or Smith. Whatever.

in more interesting news that Tyrone Wallace kid was showing some moxie and feel around the hoop. 6'5" SG who can bring the ball up. May be an offensive diamond in the rough, but since tonight is the last preseason game and Doc is the coach we'll probably never find out.

Nice shooting night from Wes (4-4 3pt). If he can just board and drain threes with limited ball handling he'll be a weapon. Teo is awesome to watch. This will be a fun year.

Oct 13, 2017 9:04am
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Wes had a good pre-season.  And yes, Teo is the real deal.

Oct 13, 2017 9:13am
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clipsentuboca wrote:

tail end of the Kings game last night Ralph mentioned "fifteen year broadcast partner...Seattle...". Was hard to distinguish exactly what he said as was using my tv speakers due to the speaker bar being out and a generally bad audio, muddled mix from the Clipper broadcast producers. Not sure if he was talking about Walton or Smith. Whatever.

in more interesting news that Tyrone Wallace kid was showing some moxie and feel around the hoop. 6'5" SG who can bring the ball up. May be an offensive diamond in the rough, but since tonight is the last preseason game and Doc is the coach we'll probably never find out.

Nice shooting night from Wes (4-4 3pt). If he can just board and drain threes with limited ball handling he'll be a weapon. Teo is awesome to watch. This will be a fun year.

yeah give Wallace the remaining two way contract. Telecast is boring without Smith. He made Rall h better. Bowen is okay but a definite downgrade.

Oct 13, 2017 10:32am
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I wonder how many people are going to listen to the Radio Broadcast with their TV, if they don't like the new combination of TV broadcasters.

 

There's a few articles on how to do it.

 

Since I still like using a physical radio (as opposed to a radio stream), I will see how I can do it that way, sometime.

Oct 14, 2017 6:36pm
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nuraman00 wrote:

I wonder how many people are going to listen to the Radio Broadcast with their TV, if they don't like the new combination of TV broadcasters.

 

There's a few articles on how to do it.

 

Since I still like using a physical radio (as opposed to a radio stream), I will see how I can do it that way, sometime.

 

They're probably going to think ratings will go down because Chris Paul left, but I think the broadcasting change will factor in. Ralph and Bruce may have more national credibility, but they're a boring pair to listen to. If preseason is any indication, Bruce is nowhere near into the games as Mike was. We'll see if it's just the low stakes of preseason, but I'm skeptical

Oct 16, 2017 10:42am
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Hitnrun24 wrote:

They're probably going to think ratings will go down because Chris Paul left, but I think the broadcasting change will factor in. Ralph and Bruce may have more national credibility, but they're a boring pair to listen to. If preseason is any indication, Bruce is nowhere near into the games as Mike was. We'll see if it's just the low stakes of preseason, but I'm skeptical

 

I agree with this. Bowen is borning. I even heard a few times when he said "we" referring to the something the Clippers did in relation to a player they brought in and it felt so weird to me. I'm not sure I love this change right now. 

Oct 16, 2017 10:48am
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I'm going to look for an app that will noise cancel Bowen's voice pitch in real time.

 

So that way it will only be Lawler talking.

 

The second option would be to listen to the radio broadcast while watching TV, at times.

Oct 16, 2017 11:44am
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nuraman00 wrote:

I'm going to look for an app that will noise cancel Bowen's voice pitch in real time.

 

So that way it will only be Lawler talking.

 

The second option would be to listen to the radio broadcast while watching TV, at times.

 

The third option would be for the app to noise cancel Bowen and simultaneously retransmit it in Mike Smith's voice pitch, while randomly adding words like "Flyin' Lion" after a Griffin score.

Oct 25, 2017 12:58pm
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I've tried to give Bowen a few games and let him settle in as a broadcaster, but he's just not that interesting. If Clipper management felt they need a new color commentator, why not Don Maclean?  Another question, why did they fire Mike Smith?  I've seen a lot of speculation but nothing concrete. 

Oct 25, 2017 1:00pm
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ClipsAhoy wrote:

I've tried to give Bowen a few games and let him settle in as a broadcaster, but he's just not that interesting. If Clipper management felt they need a new color commentator, why not Don Maclean?  Another question, why did they fire Mike Smith?  I've seen a lot of speculation but nothing concrete. 

I agree. Bowen is boring and I don't learn anything from him.

Oct 25, 2017 1:15pm
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got to be either a diversity play* or maybe he saw retards in the org being retained or promoted and asked for a raise which didn't go over well. Doubt it was a Ralph falling out, but I'm sure Ralph didn't lose sleep over it either. Maybe the guy here with the supposed inside connections can get it clarified. I kinda miss Smith. Bring back M. Smith! Protest the anthem for M. Smith!

*not really a fan of Bowen (yet), but at least they didn't stick a Beth Mowins on us. Her MNF broadcast was one of the most uneducated I've ever heard. There is a guy, with whiny voice, who does college fb too who is downright awful. Just amazing how people with minimal strategic understanding of the game can confidently flap their gums aloud and networks pay em for it.

Oct 25, 2017 1:41pm
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Can we give Ralph and Bruce 20 games or so to develop some chemistry before we trash theM?  I enjoyed Mike Smith as well, but that doesn't mean Bruce won't be fine once he gets his legs under him.

Oct 25, 2017 2:07pm
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clipsentuboca wrote:

got to be either a diversity play* or maybe he saw retards in the org being retained or promoted and asked for a raise which didn't go over well. Doubt it was a Ralph falling out, but I'm sure Ralph didn't lose sleep over it either. Maybe the guy here with the supposed inside connections can get it clarified. I kinda miss Smith. Bring back M. Smith! Protest the anthem for M. Smith!

*not really a fan of Bowen (yet), but at least they didn't stick a Beth Mowins on us. Her MNF broadcast was one of the most uneducated I've ever heard. There is a guy, with whiny voice, who does college fb too who is downright awful. Just amazing how people with minimal strategic understanding of the game can confidently flap their gums aloud and networks pay em for it.

 

I said this earlier, but to me, it's not diversity since both Smith and Bowen were former players.

 

To achieve diversity, it has to be someone from a different background.

 

Someone with no prior NBA experience; or a former GM / agent; or maybe someone who had an existing role within the Clippers organization.

 

In any of these cases, these differences in experiences would provide the different perspective.

 

With Smith and Bowen being players, they come from the same perspective about what it was like playing, training, or rehabbing from injuries, and what happens in the locker room.

 

Your raise hypothetical could be right.  Maybe his contract was up and he didn't get the raise he wanted.

 

If they had really wanted Ralph's input on whom to hire, I doubt he would have picked Bowen, since Bowen and Ralph's worlds didn't really intersect beforehand.

 

nuraman00 wrote:

To me, there wouldn't be any more diversity going from Smith to Bowen since both were former players.  Similar type of perspective.

 

If they brought in someone with a different background, such as a former scout, GM, or coach, then that would bring more diversity.  If that's what they were aiming for.

Oct 25, 2017 3:34pm
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was talking about diversity in skin color or gender being a possible reason. Most tv sports shows and broadcasts now have multi-ethnic (Lawler/Bowen, Webber/Marv, etc.) or gender (Doris Burke/Van Gundy or whoever she is with), so it could have been part of the reason for Mike's dismissal. CEO of Microsoft is Indian. Who knows what triggered it really. Probably culmination of money, ratings, race with different levels of importance.

 

 

Oct 25, 2017 3:35pm
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Oct 25, 2017 4:27pm
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This is what I heard. I know someone that knows Petros and you as you know Petros is a friend of Don MacLean. My friend was told that Don MacLean said that Ralph and Mike did not get along very well off the court and as a matter of fact have not spoken to each other except for on air the last few years. And he also said that Ralph is the one that requested that they replace Mike. If you read Mike Smith's comments on twitter and etc, he states that he wanted to come back, but it was not his decision. Take this for what its worth, but my friend knows Petros and I have met Petros thru him.

Oct 25, 2017 4:53pm
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Ok, but did he want Bowen?

Oct 25, 2017 5:38pm
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Bowen is like a piece of stale white bread.

...yeah, it technically completes the sandwich, but bleh. It doesn't add anything interesting to the sandwich.

Oct 25, 2017 6:17pm
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shyfan wrote:

This is what I heard. I know someone that knows Petros and you as you know Petros is a friend of Don MacLean. My friend was told that Don MacLean said that Ralph and Mike did not get along very well off the court and as a matter of fact have not spoken to each other except for on air the last few years. And he also said that Ralph is the one that requested that they replace Mike. If you read Mike Smith's comments on twitter and etc, he states that he wanted to come back, but it was not his decision. Take this for what its worth, but my friend knows Petros and I have met Petros thru him.

 

Yep, it's clear as day the way it was handled that this very likely came down from Ralph. I was against the move, but willing to give Bruce some time to settle in (hoping he can bring some decent defensive insight). Mike has been a little childish about it, but they also kinda screwed him by dumping him so late that he didn't get a chance to try to get a job with another team. I think that Ralph does like Bruce or at least was very in favor of the change just as long as it meant Mike was out.

Oct 25, 2017 9:32pm
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shyfan is lying. Just found out Ballmer got this sent to his Office 365 account and made the move after watching:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=638ULV77Xsk

then Smith borat older brother comment with suspension (really? why?): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN5zyimKsp4

Smith talking about a private fantasy bathing session with an in-his-prime, long-haired Steve Nash featuring orange peels and chocolate shavings or Maggette sculpted upper body thoughts followed by awkward on air silence: no video

Attempting to cement a, in what we all know is a now failed, long-term partnership with a fun joint nickname: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPC-HV2kM1M

If Lawler influenced the decision then thinking it was all the "Ralphie Boy" and the "did you make love to sweet jo last night? I have fifteen kids" comments. Will Lawler ever dignify a public response? Think we will need to demand it in protest.

 

Oct 26, 2017 12:11am
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Was on the Jazz forum last night and they commented on how bad Bowen was.  So it's not just us.  They did like Ralph though.

Oct 26, 2017 12:33am
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My only issue is the chemistry. Ralph and Mike were always having a conversation while Ralph was calling the game. With Bowen, Ralph will be calling the game, then there is dead air when there is nothing to call, and then Bowen randomly chimes in with something. If Bowen doesn't work out, then go with Maggette. He's an old Clipper and he was always smart and articulate when he was interviewed in his playing days.

Oct 26, 2017 9:02am
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shyfan wrote:

This is what I heard. I know someone that knows Petros and you as you know Petros is a friend of Don MacLean. My friend was told that Don MacLean said that Ralph and Mike did not get along very well off the court and as a matter of fact have not spoken to each other except for on air the last few years. And he also said that Ralph is the one that requested that they replace Mike. If you read Mike Smith's comments on twitter and etc, he states that he wanted to come back, but it was not his decision. Take this for what its worth, but my friend knows Petros and I have met Petros thru him.

I believe this 100%, you could tell from twitter afterwards that Ralph was pretty cold towards Smith after the firing and I don't think Ralph has ever even said anything on the air about Smith either.

What I wonder is WHY they didn't get along off the court, because they seemed to have such great chemistry during the games. It seems odd to me.

Oct 26, 2017 3:25pm
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Hitnrun24 wrote:

shyfan wrote:

This is what I heard. I know someone that knows Petros and you as you know Petros is a friend of Don MacLean. My friend was told that Don MacLean said that Ralph and Mike did not get along very well off the court and as a matter of fact have not spoken to each other except for on air the last few years. And he also said that Ralph is the one that requested that they replace Mike. If you read Mike Smith's comments on twitter and etc, he states that he wanted to come back, but it was not his decision. Take this for what its worth, but my friend knows Petros and I have met Petros thru him.

 

Yep, it's clear as day the way it was handled that this very likely came down from Ralph. I was against the move, but willing to give Bruce some time to settle in (hoping he can bring some decent defensive insight). Mike has been a little childish about it, but they also kinda screwed him by dumping him so late that he didn't get a chance to try to get a job with another team. I think that Ralph does like Bruce or at least was very in favor of the change just as long as it meant Mike was out.

 

How has Mike been childish about it?

 

I also don't see Ralph hanging out with Bruce off the court.

Oct 26, 2017 3:26pm
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trapp76 wrote:

shyfan wrote:

This is what I heard. I know someone that knows Petros and you as you know Petros is a friend of Don MacLean. My friend was told that Don MacLean said that Ralph and Mike did not get along very well off the court and as a matter of fact have not spoken to each other except for on air the last few years. And he also said that Ralph is the one that requested that they replace Mike. If you read Mike Smith's comments on twitter and etc, he states that he wanted to come back, but it was not his decision. Take this for what its worth, but my friend knows Petros and I have met Petros thru him.

I believe this 100%, you could tell from twitter afterwards that Ralph was pretty cold towards Smith after the firing and I don't think Ralph has ever even said anything on the air about Smith either.

What I wonder is WHY they didn't get along off the court, because they seemed to have such great chemistry during the games. It seems odd to me.

 

Do you see Ralph hanging out with Bowen off the court?

 

I don't, or rarely if at all.

Oct 26, 2017 5:16pm
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nuraman00 wrote:

Hitnrun24 wrote:

shyfan wrote:

This is what I heard. I know someone that knows Petros and you as you know Petros is a friend of Don MacLean. My friend was told that Don MacLean said that Ralph and Mike did not get along very well off the court and as a matter of fact have not spoken to each other except for on air the last few years. And he also said that Ralph is the one that requested that they replace Mike. If you read Mike Smith's comments on twitter and etc, he states that he wanted to come back, but it was not his decision. Take this for what its worth, but my friend knows Petros and I have met Petros thru him.

 

Yep, it's clear as day the way it was handled that this very likely came down from Ralph. I was against the move, but willing to give Bruce some time to settle in (hoping he can bring some decent defensive insight). Mike has been a little childish about it, but they also kinda screwed him by dumping him so late that he didn't get a chance to try to get a job with another team. I think that Ralph does like Bruce or at least was very in favor of the change just as long as it meant Mike was out.

 

How has Mike been childish about it?

 

I also don't see Ralph hanging out with Bruce off the court.

 

He's been retweeting comments about how missed he is by Clippers fans and how they hate Bruce, basically all the stuff most of us are saying but usually people in his position will take the high road.