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Sep 25, 2017 3:30pm
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Mistwell wrote:

Jimbo wrote:

trapp76 wrote:

Kerley wrote:

The rumor is that Clippers wanted Reggie Miller, but he was unavailable for that many games (thank god). 

There is also some speculating that Ralph is wanting to retire and replacing both of them would be hard to do in the same season. My guess is that Sieman comes on next year with Bruce. 

I like the move. It seems like slowly but surely Ballmer is making moves and thinking about every aspect. 

No Ralph needs to stay forever.

Bingo!!

 

So like a Weekend at Bernie's situation, 30 years from now? An older JJ Redick, who will be a broadcaster by then, should prop Ralph up, move his arms, and mimic his "Bingo!"?

Yeah OK, I can dig that.  A little morbid, but I can still appreciate the old school sense in it. :)

 

Nov 9, 2012 11:07am Mistwell wrote:

Asst. Coach Bernie Bickerstaff will be the intermin coach starting tonight.

Let the Weekend at Bernie's jokes begin!

​Sep 23, 2015 8:10pm CorkScrew wrote:

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They can bring Hillary's dead corpse out to run, weekend at bernie's style and her dead corpse would STILL beat whoever the republican nominee is.

 

Haha!

 

Weekend

 

This is still true below.  I added the movie after one of the above posts, several years ago.  My DVR wishlist still hasn't found it.  (It has found other movies, though).

 

Sep 24, 2015 9:27am nuraman00 wrote:

Those two Weekend at Bernies Movies have been on my DVR wishlist to record for almost a year, if not longer.  But they have never been scheduled to air since that time.

 

You'd think that a movie that's so referenced in pop culture would air once a year, preferably both.

 

Sep 25, 2017 9:22pm
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Mistwell wrote:

You took offense, and now you're taking offense over being called out for taking offense. 

Took offense? No I didn't take offense. I just pointed out stupidity.

Sep 25, 2017 11:45pm
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trapp76 wrote:

Mistwell wrote:

You took offense, and now you're taking offense over being called out for taking offense. 

Took offense? No I didn't take offense. I just pointed out stupidity.

No need. You exude stupidity on many of your posts without even knowing it. You might try and grow up a bit and disagree without throwing out the insults and the language that you hope makes you look tough but instead just makes you look very insecure. If you insist and continue on in that vein we may have to replace the "ap" in your name with a "um" while throwing a Jr. behind it. That should do the trick.
Sep 26, 2017 2:31am
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A few years ago I was convinced that Mike Smith at very least was a lurker on this site, and perhaps maybe posted here.  Of course if someone came forward now no one would believe them.

Sep 26, 2017 5:01am
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Dyce wrote:

A few years ago I was convinced that Mike Smith at very least was a lurker on this site, and perhaps maybe posted here.  Of course if someone came forward now no one would believe them.

As in this?

 

Sep 26, 2017 9:31am
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Mistwell wrote:

Jimbo wrote:

trapp76 wrote:

Kerley wrote:

The rumor is that Clippers wanted Reggie Miller, but he was unavailable for that many games (thank god). 

There is also some speculating that Ralph is wanting to retire and replacing both of them would be hard to do in the same season. My guess is that Sieman comes on next year with Bruce. 

I like the move. It seems like slowly but surely Ballmer is making moves and thinking about every aspect. 

No Ralph needs to stay forever.

Bingo!!

 

So like a Weekend at Bernie's situation, 30 years from now? An older JJ Redick, who will be a broadcaster by then, should prop Ralph up, move his arms, and mimic his "Bingo!"?

Yeah OK, I can dig that.  A little morbid, but I can still appreciate the old school sense in it. :)

You're right. That is morbid. Obviously, Ralph can't stay forever. All good things come to an end. One would just love to see him stay on as long as humanly possible. 

 

Sep 26, 2017 10:01am
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Jimbo wrote:

Mistwell wrote:

Jimbo wrote:

trapp76 wrote:

Kerley wrote:

The rumor is that Clippers wanted Reggie Miller, but he was unavailable for that many games (thank god). 

There is also some speculating that Ralph is wanting to retire and replacing both of them would be hard to do in the same season. My guess is that Sieman comes on next year with Bruce. 

I like the move. It seems like slowly but surely Ballmer is making moves and thinking about every aspect. 

No Ralph needs to stay forever.

Bingo!!

 

So like a Weekend at Bernie's situation, 30 years from now? An older JJ Redick, who will be a broadcaster by then, should prop Ralph up, move his arms, and mimic his "Bingo!"?

Yeah OK, I can dig that.  A little morbid, but I can still appreciate the old school sense in it. :)

You're right. That is morbid. Obviously, Ralph can't stay forever. All good things come to an end. One would just love to see him stay on as long as humanly possible. 

 

We prep for Halloween early at my house. My daughter is Wednesday Addams this year, which dragged my wife into being Morticia and myself into being Gomez. Propping up a dead body and mimicking their voice is right in line with what the Adams' would approve of. I guess it's on my mind, that kind of humor, at the moment. Sort of like how they play Wake The Dead:

 

Sep 26, 2017 10:48am
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Wait Tullabye, don't you like Trump?

Sep 26, 2017 11:22am
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trapp76 wrote:

Wait Tullabye, don't you like Trump?

What a cowardly retort. It's like the fart joke of the internet. No substance, but gets a laugh from middle schoolers!

Sep 26, 2017 12:59pm
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I remember Smith on the radio subconsciously calling a pussy foul.  I can't remember which player, but it was the other team.  It sounded something like "Blank with the pussy foul on Darius Miles."   I don't think anybody else noticed the slip up.

Sep 26, 2017 1:10pm
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I'm really disappointed to hear about Mike. He had great chemistry with Ralph.  He also had good intuition about the state of clipper's games and made some pretty nice predictions.

He made lots of losing games more bearable because of his random banter.

 

Why Bowen?  He has no link to the organization or the players...

I can't help but think Clippers' marketing is trying to create a team resembling Chic Hearn and Stu Lantz.  

 

Both Mike and Ralph survived the Haddadi fiasco.

Maybe it's due to Mike's legal troubles? http://bhcourier.com/clippers-announcer-mike-smith-acquitted-of-grand-theft/

 

Sep 26, 2017 1:12pm
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nuraman00 wrote:

Olowokandi34 wrote:

Bruce Bowen cmon now.  Should have been don mclean

 

What WWE event in history would you compare this to?

Announcing wise.  Losing JR hurt and changed the dynamic with Jerry Lawler.  Jerry Lawler (puppies!), was awful after JR's departure and was eventually replaced.

Recently this year, Smackdown losing Mauro Ranallo hurt the programing.  His work with JBL was under the radar, arguably one of the greatest teams of all time.  However, Ranallo said he was bullied by JBL and quit.  JBL also left.  

However it was nice seeing Ranallo calling the Mcgregor vs Mayweather showdown.  He made the match sound more meaningful and exciting than it actually was.  

Sep 26, 2017 1:19pm
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vicrattlehead wrote:

I remember Smith on the radio subconsciously calling a pussy foul.  I can't remember which player, but it was the other team.  It sounded something like "Blank with the pussy foul on Darius Miles."   I don't think anybody else noticed the slip up.

 

Thanks for bringing up that story again.  Funny, I seemed to be the only one who liked it last time too.

 

http://www.clippertalk.com/comment/64575#comment-64575

 

Mar 15, 2014 9:43pm vicrattlehead wrote:

I like when he said "pussy foul" on accident, in place of "ticky tack foul".  Nobody seemed to notice.

Also Ralph once said Mike Smith had a "pornographic memory"on accident, instead of "photographic memory".  Mike Smith Agreed.

Mike Smith called DeAndre Jordan, "DeAndre The Giant!"  Nobody caught on, but I liked the nick name.

Mike Smith and Ralph both got suspended for saying, "thee Iran?" when Iran player Haddadi entered the game.

 

 

Sep 26, 2017 5:55pm
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Mistwell wrote:

trapp76 wrote:

Wait Tullabye, don't you like Trump?

What a cowardly retort. It's like the fart joke of the internet. No substance, but gets a laugh from middle schoolers!

what in god's name are you talking about?

Oct 2, 2017 12:48pm
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suxers. For all the crap I'd give M. Smith it was done in a loving way for I respected his work. Seemed like he had quality player relationships was able to draw out some of their insights while also having some of his own unique perspectives as well. Did a pretty good job of tracking down obscure data too.  

Not of a fan of the move, Clips. But guess we gotta give Bowen a chance now. As long as he's not sporting that self-marketing bowtie every game (*eye roll*).

Oct 4, 2017 11:29am
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Was there any kind of acknowledgement on-air by Ralph about Mike Smith being gone?  Or maybe a tribute on-air of the greatest moments over the years between the two of them?

Oct 4, 2017 11:30am
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clipsentuboca wrote:

suxers. For all the crap I'd give M. Smith it was done in a loving way for I respected his work. Seemed like he had quality player relationships was able to draw out some of their insights while also having some of his own unique perspectives as well. Did a pretty good job of tracking down obscure data too.  

Not of a fan of the move, Clips. But guess we gotta give Bowen a chance now. As long as he's not sporting that self-marketing bowtie every game (*eye roll*).

 

I like hearing this when listening to sports broadcasters.  Agree.

Oct 6, 2017 5:22pm
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Got a little bit of an icy vibe coming from Ralph on Mike's departure, don't think he ever loved him just my opinion. Mike also seemed pretty hurt by it and lamented it for a while afterwards. It didn't seem like other team's fans liked Mike much, probably bc he was too much of a fan, but I liked the familiarity and his banter with Ralph.

 

Bowen is probably fine, but he's too much of a Spur for me which probably shouldn't matter much in these instances but they do. Sadly I think this came from Ralph or he at least did not try to save Mike's job. He seems pretty excited to be broadcasting with Bruce.

Oct 6, 2017 6:42pm
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I don't know why he'd be excited. Bowen is pretty boring. I have to agree with Ralph having a hand in Smith's departure. I'm pretty sure he'd have to be consulted before the move and his comment about Smith being a "smart guy" was a bit to condescending for my liking. 

Oct 6, 2017 7:17pm
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Miss Mike Smith but Bowen is good. Outside of Clipperville a lot of fans sh*t on our broadcast team if you're unaware. Not to mention alot of local NBA broadcast teams aren't that highly regarded anyways. I'm more about what's happening on the court first and foremost. Something must have went south with Mike Smith for him not to be part of the announcing team anymore. Bowen is cool, you guys have unrealistic expectations. 

 

 

 

 

 

-plus I have to support a fellow Fresno nativecool

Oct 6, 2017 8:51pm
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Hitnrun24 wrote:

Got a little bit of an icy vibe coming from Ralph on Mike's departure, don't think he ever loved him just my opinion.

it may have been the whole "ralphy boy" and "did you go to bed early?" thing that Mike spewed out at Ralph in an overly familiar, borderline adversarial tug that Lawler finally realized he could do without. Bowen seems okay actually with his Buena Vista Social Club reference that went way over Ralph 'Beaver' Lawler's head, but still think they dropped the ball releasing The Smithsonian. Crying bs on this one.

Okay with CP being gone. It's like a fresh new team.

Oct 6, 2017 9:05pm
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I like the idea of Bruce Bowen replacing Mike Smith, but It's weird listening to a different voice talking with Ralph, though. 

Oct 7, 2017 12:14am
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I wish we replaced Mike with someone that actually followed the team before this summer.  I feel like the listening fans know more about the team than Bowen does.  That is not good.

Oct 7, 2017 10:38am
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Dyce wrote:

I wish we replaced Mike with someone that actually followed the team before this summer.  I feel like the listening fans know more about the team than Bowen does.  That is not good.

Bowen will be just fine and he’ll know more about the team as the season progresses. I like Bowen’s knowledge and technical aspects of the game more then Smith’s sometimes silly banter. Change is hard for some fans, but I believe Bowen will be just fine and most everyone will soon put Mike Smith in the past.

Oct 7, 2017 11:02am
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Back in the day I thought it was pretty jarring to go from Walton to Smith and lot of other people probably did as well and Smith grew on people over time after they had time to adjust to his style.  My guess is the same will happen with Bowen if sticks around long enough.

Oct 7, 2017 2:38pm
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clipsentuboca wrote:

Hitnrun24 wrote:

Got a little bit of an icy vibe coming from Ralph on Mike's departure, don't think he ever loved him just my opinion.

it may have been the whole "ralphy boy" and "did you go to bed early?" thing that Mike spewed out at Ralph in an overly familiar, borderline adversarial tug that Lawler finally realized he could do without. Bowen seems okay actually with his Buena Vista Social Club reference that went way over Ralph 'Beaver' Lawler's head, but still think they dropped the ball releasing The Smithsonian. Crying bs on this one.

Okay with CP being gone. It's like a fresh new team.

 

I don't remember hearing "Ralphy boy".

 

I thought the "did you go to bed early" was part of the jokes they did.  Mike would say that about Ralph.  Ralph would say "Settle Down Mike Smith" about Mike.

 

 

Oct 7, 2017 2:47pm
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pro100 wrote:

Miss Mike Smith but Bowen is good. Outside of Clipperville a lot of fans sh*t on our broadcast team if you're unaware. Not to mention alot of local NBA broadcast teams aren't that highly regarded anyways. I'm more about what's happening on the court first and foremost. Something must have went south with Mike Smith for him not to be part of the announcing team anymore. Bowen is cool, you guys have unrealistic expectations. 

 

 

 

 

 

-plus I have to support a fellow Fresno nativecool

 

Mike Smith was rated high according to this chart.  He hit both the highly objective and NBA Knowledge quadrant. 

 

I think this chart was only for color commentators.

 

Oct 7, 2017 3:53pm
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nuraman00 wrote:

I don't remember hearing "Ralphy boy".

Ralphy Boy was a staple, dude.

Oct 7, 2017 5:38pm
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nuraman00 wrote:

pro100 wrote:

Miss Mike Smith but Bowen is good. Outside of Clipperville a lot of fans sh*t on our broadcast team if you're unaware. Not to mention alot of local NBA broadcast teams aren't that highly regarded anyways. I'm more about what's happening on the court first and foremost. Something must have went south with Mike Smith for him not to be part of the announcing team anymore. Bowen is cool, you guys have unrealistic expectations. 

 

 

 

 

 

-plus I have to support a fellow Fresno nativecool

 

Mike Smith was rated high according to this chart.  He hit both the highly objective and NBA Knowledge quadrant. 

 

I think this chart was only for color commentators.

 

 

What's this chart from? Sean Elliott should score higher on homerism

Oct 7, 2017 6:08pm
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Hitnrun24 wrote:

 

What's this chart from? Sean Elliott should score higher on homerism

 

Agree on Sean Elliot.  He should be on the homerism axis where Tommy Heinsohn is.

 

It's a chart someone posted during the ESPN days, so it's old.  But still pretty cool.

 

I tried finding the original source earlier this year, but couldn't.  Just finding the direct URL to the image was hard enough.  I then saved it on IMG UR so it would be easier to find.

 

Oct 8, 2017 7:46am
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mannycoon wrote:

Back in the day I thought it was pretty jarring to go from Walton to Smith and lot of other people probably did as well and Smith grew on people over time after they had time to adjust to his style.  My guess is the same will happen with Bowen if sticks around long enough.

I never got over Walton being replaced by Smith. I never liked Smith. His blind homerism was the reason why our broadcasts had such a bad reputation outside of our fanbase.

Oct 9, 2017 9:18am
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"Blind homerism"???

I never saw Mike Smith this way.  Ralph was much more of a homer and team apologist, and that's okay.  Mike would criticize Clippers players in a classy way by explaining how they can improve.

Every other NBA  TV team that I have listened to sounded bland next to Ralph and Mike.  Some could bore me to sleep.  So far, Bruce Bowen fits right in with that group. I don't understand this decision from the Clippers standpoint of trying to increase television viewership through excellence.   They took a step backwards. 

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"Blind homerism"???

I never saw Mike Smith this way.  Ralph was much more of a homer and team apologist, and that's okay.  Mike would criticize Clippers players in a classy way by explaining how they can improve.

Every other NBA  TV team that I have listened to sounded bland next to Ralph and Mike.  Some could bore me to sleep.  So far, Bruce Bowen fits right in with that group. I don't understand this decision from the Clippers standpoint of trying to increase television viewership through excellence.   They took a step backwards. 

Oct 9, 2017 9:28am
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I have been kind of surprised by Ralph's lack of empathy for Mike Smith being let go.

Oct 9, 2017 9:52am
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I also agree that this has Ralph's fingerprints all over it.  I once heard him say they don't hang out at all. He said only that they worked well together.  They wouldn't have made the change without Ralph's blessing

 

 

Oct 9, 2017 10:37am
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I mean, Ralph has got to be close to retirement at this point, right? I see him posting about vacations (mostly in Bend, Oregon I think) and longing to be there more often....

Oct 9, 2017 11:40am
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angelfan1958 wrote:

I also agree that this has Ralph's fingerprints all over it.  I once heard him say they don't hang out at all. He said only that they worked well together.  They wouldn't have made the change without Ralph's blessing

 

 

 

I don't see Ralph hanging out with Bruce outside of work either.

 

Not even sure why it matters so much, as long as the on-air chemistry was good.

Oct 9, 2017 12:25pm
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Mistwell wrote:

I mean, Ralph has got to be close to retirement at this point, right? I see him posting about vacations (mostly in Bend, Oregon I think) and longing to be there more often....

He does that every single off-season for years now.............and I think he actually sold his place up there. Ralph is 79. Vin Scully retired when he was 88, but he had stopped doing road games, years before that. I think Ralph probably has another good 4-5 years left in him before he retires, maybe more.

Oct 9, 2017 12:41pm
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trapp76 wrote:

I have been kind of surprised by Ralph's lack of empathy for Mike Smith being let go.

Ralph has always followed the company line.  He didn't say anything when Sterling refused to pay for that guys cancer payments.

Oct 9, 2017 12:56pm
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I would think that even if u didn't hang out with a co worker you wouldn't make a point of mentioning it if there wasn't an underlying issue
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Rhy1244 wrote:

trapp76 wrote:

I have been kind of surprised by Ralph's lack of empathy for Mike Smith being let go.

Ralph has always followed the company line.  He didn't say anything when Sterling refused to pay for that guys cancer payments.

 

"That guy" was Kim Hughes.

 

CorkScrew wrote:

Firemillen wrote:

We need Kareem or Ewing as an AC.  Our bigs need help.

Or Kim Hughes, he did an improbable job with Kaman. But I guess that's out since the cancer treatment incident...

Oct 10, 2017 7:51pm
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I don't think Ralph said a thing about Mike since the split, which is pretty telling. Or if he did I missed it as I haven't watched preseason. He did say how something about how much Clippers fans were going to love Bowen, who most have us have probably heard since he's done national games. I just don't see him as a guy who's going to be here long term. I think Mike was ok with them not being best of friends off the court, I wonder if there ever was an incident that Ralph could never get over.

Oct 11, 2017 8:19pm
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"I'd like to have a word with Sweet Jo's blow hole husband" slapping Ralph hard on the back after he had just started chewing a bite of steak

Oct 12, 2017 8:49am
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I'm just surprised they didn't do any kind of fond memories / tribute video during the first broadcast, highlighting the pair's best and funniest moments.

 

That would have helped quell some of the speculation.

Oct 13, 2017 8:55am
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tail end of the Kings game last night Ralph mentioned "fifteen year broadcast partner...Seattle...". Was hard to distinguish exactly what he said as was using my tv speakers due to the speaker bar being out and a generally bad audio, muddled mix from the Clipper broadcast producers. Not sure if he was talking about Walton or Smith. Whatever.

in more interesting news that Tyrone Wallace kid was showing some moxie and feel around the hoop. 6'5" SG who can bring the ball up. May be an offensive diamond in the rough, but since tonight is the last preseason game and Doc is the coach we'll probably never find out.

Nice shooting night from Wes (4-4 3pt). If he can just board and drain threes with limited ball handling he'll be a weapon. Teo is awesome to watch. This will be a fun year.

Oct 13, 2017 9:04am
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Wes had a good pre-season.  And yes, Teo is the real deal.

Oct 13, 2017 9:13am
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clipsentuboca wrote:

tail end of the Kings game last night Ralph mentioned "fifteen year broadcast partner...Seattle...". Was hard to distinguish exactly what he said as was using my tv speakers due to the speaker bar being out and a generally bad audio, muddled mix from the Clipper broadcast producers. Not sure if he was talking about Walton or Smith. Whatever.

in more interesting news that Tyrone Wallace kid was showing some moxie and feel around the hoop. 6'5" SG who can bring the ball up. May be an offensive diamond in the rough, but since tonight is the last preseason game and Doc is the coach we'll probably never find out.

Nice shooting night from Wes (4-4 3pt). If he can just board and drain threes with limited ball handling he'll be a weapon. Teo is awesome to watch. This will be a fun year.

yeah give Wallace the remaining two way contract. Telecast is boring without Smith. He made Rall h better. Bowen is okay but a definite downgrade.

Oct 13, 2017 10:32am
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I wonder how many people are going to listen to the Radio Broadcast with their TV, if they don't like the new combination of TV broadcasters.

 

There's a few articles on how to do it.

 

Since I still like using a physical radio (as opposed to a radio stream), I will see how I can do it that way, sometime.

Oct 14, 2017 6:36pm
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nuraman00 wrote:

I wonder how many people are going to listen to the Radio Broadcast with their TV, if they don't like the new combination of TV broadcasters.

 

There's a few articles on how to do it.

 

Since I still like using a physical radio (as opposed to a radio stream), I will see how I can do it that way, sometime.

 

They're probably going to think ratings will go down because Chris Paul left, but I think the broadcasting change will factor in. Ralph and Bruce may have more national credibility, but they're a boring pair to listen to. If preseason is any indication, Bruce is nowhere near into the games as Mike was. We'll see if it's just the low stakes of preseason, but I'm skeptical

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Hitnrun24 wrote:

They're probably going to think ratings will go down because Chris Paul left, but I think the broadcasting change will factor in. Ralph and Bruce may have more national credibility, but they're a boring pair to listen to. If preseason is any indication, Bruce is nowhere near into the games as Mike was. We'll see if it's just the low stakes of preseason, but I'm skeptical

 

I agree with this. Bowen is borning. I even heard a few times when he said "we" referring to the something the Clippers did in relation to a player they brought in and it felt so weird to me. I'm not sure I love this change right now.