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#1 Jan 29, 2018 4:43pm
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Marjanovic

If we trade DJ could he be our starting center. The guy is intriguing.

Jan 29, 2018 4:47pm
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He's good per minute but he's never played more than 10 minutes per game, so hard to say whether he has the motor, fitness and durability to handle a much more significant role.  For now Harrell would probably start if Jordan was traded or out, but we should at least try to ramp up Boban's minutes to see how well he can handle it.

Jan 29, 2018 5:59pm
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I like Boban. 538 called him the most efficient scorer in NBA History.

And I like his ears. He has epic ears. 

Jan 29, 2018 6:06pm
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538 also said he's borderline unplayable in the modern NBA because he's too slow to guard any big man who can make a jump shot. There's no spinning this trade... we got garbage in return for Blake.

Jan 29, 2018 6:08pm
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VFHS wrote:

538 also said he's borderline unplayable in the modern NBA because he's too slow to guard any big man who can make a jump shot. There's no spinning this trade... we got garbage in return for Blake.

There is no rational way to spin Tobias Harris as garbage. None. You don't have to like the trade (I don't) but he's not garbage. 

Jan 29, 2018 6:17pm
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Mistwell wrote:

VFHS wrote:

538 also said he's borderline unplayable in the modern NBA because he's too slow to guard any big man who can make a jump shot. There's no spinning this trade... we got garbage in return for Blake.

There is no rational way to spin Tobias Harris as garbage. None. You don't have to like the trade (I don't) but he's not garbage. 

Tobias Harris is a serviceable starter at best, and he's the headliner for us in this trade. That is garbage as a return for Blake.

Jan 30, 2018 4:28pm
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Why didn't the Spurs play him more?

Jan 30, 2018 5:21pm
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I have mentioned pretty much every year since 2013 that I want Tobias Harris on this team.

For example, 

April 10, 2013, "I mentioned in another thread that I like Tobias Harris in a trade and was told he was a nobody - Harris is playing the same minutes as Butler, but holding down a 15.28 PER, at $1.5M this year (signed for two more years, maxing out at less than $3.4M, which is less than half of Butler).  That's the kind of "nobody" I prefer on this team instead of Butler."

Dec 3, 2014, "Once again I must say, Tobias Harris is the SF I want for this team.  I think he could be had too."

Tobias Harris is not "serviceable" he's good. We got a good player from this trade. He's not "Blake" good, but he's definitely good. I am very pleased to have him on this team and I hope we keep him for a long time. He was in all-star contention by the way. When I was reading reactions from Pistons fans a lot were saying they are going to miss Harris and we are going to fall in love with him as a player. 

 

 

Jan 30, 2018 5:35pm
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Mistwell wrote:

I have mentioned pretty much every year since 2013 that I want Tobias Harris on this team.

For example, 

April 10, 2013, "I mentioned in another thread that I like Tobias Harris in a trade and was told he was a nobody - Harris is playing the same minutes as Butler, but holding down a 15.28 PER, at $1.5M this year (signed for two more years, maxing out at less than $3.4M, which is less than half of Butler).  That's the kind of "nobody" I prefer on this team instead of Butler."

Dec 3, 2014, "Once again I must say, Tobias Harris is the SF I want for this team.  I think he could be had too."

Tobias Harris is not "serviceable" he's good. We got a good player from this trade. He's not "Blake" good, but he's definitely good. I am very pleased to have him on this team and I hope we keep him for a long time. He was in all-star contention by the way. When I was reading reactions from Pistons fans a lot were saying they are going to miss Harris and we are going to fall in love with him as a player. 

 

 

 

Agree that Harris is a pretty good player. We also have to judge this trade by the money we are able to use to sign someone else with as well as the draft picks we get out of this.

Jan 30, 2018 5:35pm
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nuraman00 wrote:

Why didn't the Spurs play him more?

 

I mean Marjanovic.

Jan 30, 2018 6:26pm
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Marjanovic is overpaid. That said, one of the few things Doc has done pretty darn well is improve traditional centers. He did a good job with DJ, turning him from a guy most people wanted off the team, to a guy who got a max deal from us that people were fairly happy with. He gave DJ the confidence to rebound more, to swat back blocks, to improve his free throws, and to defend harder and make a run at DPO. 

So maybe he can do the same with Marjanovic, if Doc is around long enough to do that. I have serious doubts Doc will be here much longer, we shall see. But if he is, I hope you can help Marjanovic. 

Jan 30, 2018 7:57pm
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Mistwell wrote:

Marjanovic is overpaid. That said, one of the few things Doc has done pretty darn well is improve traditional centers. He did a good job with DJ, turning him from a guy most people wanted off the team, to a guy who got a max deal from us that people were fairly happy with. He gave DJ the confidence to rebound more, to swat back blocks, to improve his free throws, and to defend harder and make a run at DPO. 

So maybe he can do the same with Marjanovic, if Doc is around long enough to do that. I have serious doubts Doc will be here much longer, we shall see. But if he is, I hope you can help Marjanovic. 

 

Boban is actually very good in his minutes. He's almost too big to get up and down the court for big minutes though, but he should have been playing more than he did for Detroit. He also needs the right lineup to maybe get 15-20 minutes, but if you get the combinations right he can give you a very productive 15 minutes a night. If it were 10-15 years ago, he'd probably be getting 26-30 min a night.

Jan 31, 2018 2:52pm
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Mistwell wrote:

Marjanovic is overpaid. That said, one of the few things Doc has done pretty darn well is improve traditional centers. He did a good job with DJ, turning him from a guy most people wanted off the team, to a guy who got a max deal from us that people were fairly happy with. He gave DJ the confidence to rebound more, to swat back blocks, to improve his free throws, and to defend harder and make a run at DPO. 

So maybe he can do the same with Marjanovic, if Doc is around long enough to do that. I have serious doubts Doc will be here much longer, we shall see. But if he is, I hope you can help Marjanovic. 

 

I discussed this in past threads, but Jordan used his hook shot under Del Negro.  He stopped using it under Rivers.  I liked the previous Jordan more.  Griffin5 agrees with me.

 

What Rivers did do was play him in the 4th quarter of close games, and live with the FT consequences.  That gave him more confidence.

 

Maybe Del Negro would have come to that point eventually.  Maybe Jordan would have told him he wants to play through it, in the offseason, and Vinny would have had a different approach, the next season, had he continued.  We won't know, but it's possible Del Negro could have changed that aspect of his coaching.

 

I don't think someone needs confidence to rebound more.  If someone is on the court, they should be trying to rebound.  It's just a matter of playing enough minutes.

 

I don't think Jordan needed confidence to improve his free throws.  He regressed during some of Rivers tenure, which to me shows it wasn't a matter of him having needing confidence to improve free throws.  He just had to work on it.  Finally, the results are showing this year.

 

What Rivers did was bench him less often if he was missing FTs.  But that would affect his overall production, not just FTs.  And during some of those years, even when he was benched less, he still missed FTs.  He had many airballs during the 2016 Portland playoffs series.

 

I also remember there were people that liked his deal when he was signed.  I remember the names of some of those people.  

 

And there's people that still don't like his deal now.

 

So I don't think the perpetration of him changed, from being a bad contract, to being a good one.  There were always a good portion of people on both sides.

 

His deal will be polarizing, depending on what you think of his game, and his role on the team.  Some people think he can mostly be replaced, others don't.  This will probably always be a debatable topic among fans.

Feb 5, 2018 11:16am
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Marjanovic hasn't made the court yet.  crying

Mar 21, 2018 3:13pm
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He had 6 rebounds in 9 minutes yesterday.

Mar 21, 2018 3:34pm
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He is a huge liability on defense, has very limited mobility, and he has butter fingers. His only dominating asset is his size. Not enough.

 

Mar 21, 2018 3:54pm
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Hitnrun24 wrote:

Mistwell wrote:

I have mentioned pretty much every year since 2013 that I want Tobias Harris on this team.

For example, 

April 10, 2013, "I mentioned in another thread that I like Tobias Harris in a trade and was told he was a nobody - Harris is playing the same minutes as Butler, but holding down a 15.28 PER, at $1.5M this year (signed for two more years, maxing out at less than $3.4M, which is less than half of Butler).  That's the kind of "nobody" I prefer on this team instead of Butler."

Dec 3, 2014, "Once again I must say, Tobias Harris is the SF I want for this team.  I think he could be had too."

Tobias Harris is not "serviceable" he's good. We got a good player from this trade. He's not "Blake" good, but he's definitely good. I am very pleased to have him on this team and I hope we keep him for a long time. He was in all-star contention by the way. When I was reading reactions from Pistons fans a lot were saying they are going to miss Harris and we are going to fall in love with him as a player. 

 

 

 

Agree that Harris is a pretty good player. We also have to judge this trade by the money we are able to use to sign someone else with as well as the draft picks we get out of this.

In addition, we should judge this trade by how well or poorly Blake is doing. With that said, this trade was a very good trade considering that Blake has digressed a little. 

Mar 21, 2018 8:37pm
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Mistwell wrote:

I like Boban. 538 called him the most efficient scorer in NBA History.

And I like his ears. He has epic ears. 

Not going to lie, I'd get my ears fixed if I were him. He's got the money.. Great guy though, glad he's on our team. Its probably his trademark now

Mar 21, 2018 9:09pm
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CorkScrew wrote:

 

He is a huge liability on defense, has very limited mobility, and he has butter fingers. His only dominating asset is his size. Not enough.

 

He’s a very good player and one we should try to keep. Has a lot to offer and we’d be foolish to dump him. He’s far more mobile than he gets credit for.
Mar 22, 2018 12:44am
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He'd be great in monster movies.  

Mar 22, 2018 12:57pm
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I'd like to see him get a chance to play 25 min/game for a solid stretch of games to see what he is capable of. 

Mar 22, 2018 1:06pm
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Hitnrun24 wrote:

I'd like to see him get a chance to play 25 min/game for a solid stretch of games to see what he is capable of. 

DJ playing 36 and Boban playing 12 should be fine
Mar 22, 2018 1:53pm
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Dyce wrote:

He'd be great in monster movies.  

LMAO

Mar 22, 2018 2:24pm
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Dyce wrote:

He'd be great in monster movies.  

With Richard Kiel's passing the James Bond films could use a new Jaws.
Jul 10, 2018 9:36pm
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Here's the video that has @VFHS's avatar.  Skip the first fifteen seconds.

 

You can also stop it at forty-eight seconds.

 

Jul 10, 2018 9:40pm
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Can Marjanovic just stand there, hold the ball high for few seconds, then throw an alley oop to someone?

Jul 11, 2018 11:06am
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nuraman00 wrote:

Can Marjanovic just stand there, hold the ball high for few seconds, then throw an alley oop to someone?

At the Denver game, the Nuggets looked like a bunch of little kids trying to stop an adult from scoring on a 8 foot hoop.