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Jul 6, 2018 3:41pm
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Dyce wrote:

We saw this first hand with Blake Griffin. It's the same injury. Originally misdiagnosed as a contusion but turned out to be much worse. I don't know guys, I'm very wary of giving up major assets for this guy. I want to see him play a full season on that knee.

I would be happy if he stays on the Spurs. Then we don't take a risk and there is no FOMO.

Jul 6, 2018 4:29pm
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IF we are giving up a package that is Harris/Beverley and a pick that doesn't mess with our future too much just in case Kawhi continues to be plagued by injury. We could still go on and tank since we would be years away from giving up a non lottery 1st round pick. Of course they will have to give us his medicals before any trade goes through so if we don't like what we see we just walk away. Worth the risk if he's willing to extend and we deem him healthy.

Jul 6, 2018 4:58pm
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Dyce wrote:

We saw this first hand with Blake Griffin. It's the same injury. Originally misdiagnosed as a contusion but turned out to be much worse. I don't know guys, I'm very wary of giving up major assets for this guy. I want to see him play a full season on that knee.

I don't think anyone is going to give up "major assets" for him. We are probably offering Harris/Beverley and possibly a future pick at most.

Jul 6, 2018 6:08pm
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trapp76 wrote:

Dyce wrote:

We saw this first hand with Blake Griffin. It's the same injury. Originally misdiagnosed as a contusion but turned out to be much worse. I don't know guys, I'm very wary of giving up major assets for this guy. I want to see him play a full season on that knee.

I don't think anyone is going to give up "major assets" for him. We are probably offering Harris/Beverley and possibly a future pick at most.

 

I agree, I think they now lost their leverage to get a major package after Lebron already committed. Because he says so little I think teams are scared to death of him walking so the Spurs are going to have to weigh trying to take what they can get or risk losing him for nothing.

 

I think part of them just wants to call his bluff and not trade him just to see if he really is willing to sit out a year and hurt his value further. If they get offered something big they'll take it, but if not I'm not sure they'd rather be stubborn than take Harris/Beverley or whatever else is being offered.

Jul 6, 2018 7:10pm
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Dyce wrote:

We saw this first hand with Blake Griffin. It's the same injury. Originally misdiagnosed as a contusion but turned out to be much worse. I don't know guys, I'm very wary of giving up major assets for this guy. I want to see him play a full season on that knee.

depending on the degree of jumpers knee, it can be pretty terrible.   I guess you make the trade pending a physical anyway though.   I don’t want any part of knee problems though.

Jul 7, 2018 1:36pm
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Kawhi Leonard trade rumors: Spurs 'remain stubborn,' Clippers' assets aren't enough

Jul 7, 2018 3:30pm
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trapp76 wrote:

Dyce wrote:

We saw this first hand with Blake Griffin. It's the same injury. Originally misdiagnosed as a contusion but turned out to be much worse. I don't know guys, I'm very wary of giving up major assets for this guy. I want to see him play a full season on that knee.

I don't think anyone is going to give up "major assets" for him. We are probably offering Harris/Beverley and possibly a future pick at most.

If that is all it takes, sign me up.  But I don't think that is anywhere close to what the Spurs are willing to accept.  Larry Coon was on tv the other day saying the Spurs wanted 3 rotation players, multiple draft picks, AND right to switch draft picks.  Basically the same type of deal the Celtics got from the Nets.

Jul 7, 2018 3:33pm
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Rhy1244 wrote:

Dyce wrote:

We saw this first hand with Blake Griffin. It's the same injury. Originally misdiagnosed as a contusion but turned out to be much worse. I don't know guys, I'm very wary of giving up major assets for this guy. I want to see him play a full season on that knee.

depending on the degree of jumpers knee, it can be pretty terrible.   

Considering he already missed almost an entire year, I'm going to say it is probably on the worst end.  But you know, I only play doctor on the internet.  

Jul 7, 2018 5:13pm
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Dyce wrote:

trapp76 wrote:

Dyce wrote:

We saw this first hand with Blake Griffin. It's the same injury. Originally misdiagnosed as a contusion but turned out to be much worse. I don't know guys, I'm very wary of giving up major assets for this guy. I want to see him play a full season on that knee.

I don't think anyone is going to give up "major assets" for him. We are probably offering Harris/Beverley and possibly a future pick at most.

If that is all it takes, sign me up.  But I don't think that is anywhere close to what the Spurs are willing to accept.  Larry Coon was on tv the other day saying the Spurs wanted 3 rotation players, multiple draft picks, AND right to switch draft picks.  Basically the same type of deal the Celtics got from the Nets.

 

The problem is Kawhi killed their leverage by sitting out a year and then saying where he wants to be. Sucks for them because otherwise they would have been able to get a ransom for him, but how can anyone give them that? Things can change drastically, if I were them I would take any young player who looks like he has potential that I could get my hands on. I would ask Boston for Brown. Philly for Fultz and Saric. Lakers for Ingram and Kuzma. Those teams probably all say no considering his volatility. If they ask the Clippers for Harris and SGA we'd probably consider it even though we love him.

Jul 7, 2018 7:11pm
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Hitnrun24 wrote:

Dyce wrote:

trapp76 wrote:

Dyce wrote:

We saw this first hand with Blake Griffin. It's the same injury. Originally misdiagnosed as a contusion but turned out to be much worse. I don't know guys, I'm very wary of giving up major assets for this guy. I want to see him play a full season on that knee.

I don't think anyone is going to give up "major assets" for him. We are probably offering Harris/Beverley and possibly a future pick at most.

If that is all it takes, sign me up.  But I don't think that is anywhere close to what the Spurs are willing to accept.  Larry Coon was on tv the other day saying the Spurs wanted 3 rotation players, multiple draft picks, AND right to switch draft picks.  Basically the same type of deal the Celtics got from the Nets.

 

The problem is Kawhi killed their leverage by sitting out a year and then saying where he wants to be. Sucks for them because otherwise they would have been able to get a ransom for him, but how can anyone give them that? Things can change drastically, if I were them I would take any young player who looks like he has potential that I could get my hands on. I would ask Boston for Brown. Philly for Fultz and Saric. Lakers for Ingram and Kuzma. Those teams probably all say no considering his volatility. If they ask the Clippers for Harris and SGA we'd probably consider it even though we love him.

Lakers have to include Deng...deal killer. Philly will have to give up more than that to unload Fultz. It’s likely San Antonio doesn’t want him. We won’t need to give up SGA. SA has no leverage and seeing as how Kawhi wants LA I’d say our offer is good without either rookie.

Jul 7, 2018 7:22pm
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Hitnrun24 wrote:

Dyce wrote:

trapp76 wrote:

Dyce wrote:

We saw this first hand with Blake Griffin. It's the same injury. Originally misdiagnosed as a contusion but turned out to be much worse. I don't know guys, I'm very wary of giving up major assets for this guy. I want to see him play a full season on that knee.

I don't think anyone is going to give up "major assets" for him. We are probably offering Harris/Beverley and possibly a future pick at most.

If that is all it takes, sign me up.  But I don't think that is anywhere close to what the Spurs are willing to accept.  Larry Coon was on tv the other day saying the Spurs wanted 3 rotation players, multiple draft picks, AND right to switch draft picks.  Basically the same type of deal the Celtics got from the Nets.

 

The problem is Kawhi killed their leverage by sitting out a year and then saying where he wants to be. Sucks for them because otherwise they would have been able to get a ransom for him, but how can anyone give them that? Things can change drastically, if I were them I would take any young player who looks like he has potential that I could get my hands on. I would ask Boston for Brown. Philly for Fultz and Saric. Lakers for Ingram and Kuzma. Those teams probably all say no considering his volatility. If they ask the Clippers for Harris and SGA we'd probably consider it even though we love him.

Lakers have to include Deng...deal killer. Philly will have to give up more than that to unload Fultz. It’s likely San Antonio doesn’t want him. We won’t need to give up SGA. SA has no leverage and seeing as how Kawhi wants LA I’d say our offer will be good without either rookie. 

Jul 7, 2018 8:05pm
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Can't they can just wait until the trade deadline and trade him to a playoff team for an expiring contract and a couple of draft picks. He will play for a playoff team?

Jul 7, 2018 8:06pm
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Dyce wrote:

trapp76 wrote:

Dyce wrote:

We saw this first hand with Blake Griffin. It's the same injury. Originally misdiagnosed as a contusion but turned out to be much worse. I don't know guys, I'm very wary of giving up major assets for this guy. I want to see him play a full season on that knee.

I don't think anyone is going to give up "major assets" for him. We are probably offering Harris/Beverley and possibly a future pick at most.

If that is all it takes, sign me up.  But I don't think that is anywhere close to what the Spurs are willing to accept.  Larry Coon was on tv the other day saying the Spurs wanted 3 rotation players, multiple draft picks, AND right to switch draft picks.  Basically the same type of deal the Celtics got from the Nets.

LOL......and I want a million dollars and a night with Kate Upton.

Jul 7, 2018 8:41pm
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Spurs might just be stubborn enough to hold onto Kawhi if they don't like the offers, even if it means they could lose him for nothing.  It's pretty much what we did with DJ.  

Jul 8, 2018 12:52am
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Dyce wrote:

Spurs might just be stubborn enough to hold onto Kawhi if they don't like the offers, even if it means they could lose him for nothing.  It's pretty much what we did with DJ.  

 

You completely lost me on the analogy here, please explain.

 

Jul 8, 2018 5:21am
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CorkScrew wrote:

Dyce wrote:

Spurs might just be stubborn enough to hold onto Kawhi if they don't like the offers, even if it means they could lose him for nothing.  It's pretty much what we did with DJ.  

 

You completely lost me on the analogy here, please explain.

 

Two years ago we were offered Capela for DJ and we passed.  This year we actually wanted to trade DJ but weren't getting the offers we liked.  The front office valued DJ at a level much higher than what the league was willing to pay and in the end we ended up with nothing.

I could see the Spurs doing the same thing with Kawhi.  To them, they see him as a top 5 player in the league and they won't accept anything less than equal value.  

Jul 8, 2018 7:08am
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Dyce wrote:

CorkScrew wrote:

Dyce wrote:

Spurs might just be stubborn enough to hold onto Kawhi if they don't like the offers, even if it means they could lose him for nothing.  It's pretty much what we did with DJ.  

 

You completely lost me on the analogy here, please explain.

 

Two years ago we were offered Capela for DJ and we passed.  This year we actually wanted to trade DJ but weren't getting the offers we liked.  The front office valued DJ at a level much higher than what the league was willing to pay and in the end we ended up with nothing.

I could see the Spurs doing the same thing with Kawhi.  To them, they see him as a top 5 player in the league and they won't accept anything less than equal value.  

we were offered scrubs for DJ. Passing on  Tobias and Bev or something comparable while having a malcontent on the bench is a whole different story. Don’t see it happening.

Jul 8, 2018 9:15am
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Dyce wrote:

CorkScrew wrote:

Dyce wrote:

Spurs might just be stubborn enough to hold onto Kawhi if they don't like the offers, even if it means they could lose him for nothing.  It's pretty much what we did with DJ.  

 

You completely lost me on the analogy here, please explain.

 

Two years ago we were offered Capela for DJ and we passed.  This year we actually wanted to trade DJ but weren't getting the offers we liked.  The front office valued DJ at a level much higher than what the league was willing to pay and in the end we ended up with nothing.

I could see the Spurs doing the same thing with Kawhi.  To them, they see him as a top 5 player in the league and they won't accept anything less than equal value.  

I must have missed us being offered Capella for DJ, don’t remember that at all. We actually had a DJ deal lined up with CLE last year but they changed their mind at the last minute and went with the Lakers offer instead.

Jul 8, 2018 10:48am
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We did pull away from a Dj/Capella trade. 

Jul 8, 2018 5:09pm
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When were we offered Capela for DJ?  edit: Ok I see a rumor that we talked to Houston about a deal last offseason that gained some traction, but nothing ever materialized. It's hard to say what side backed out on that one, but if true it appears we did lose quite a bit of value we could have gained.

 

This FO is better than before, but other than the Blake trade and maybe Lou signing I haven't seen too many moves that have produced a lot of value. Time will tell on this draft.

Jul 8, 2018 5:40pm
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I feel like if anyone backed out of a DJ-Capella deal, it was probably HOU, not us. Not sure why they would have even considered that trade.

Jul 8, 2018 7:48pm
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Hitnrun24 wrote:

When were we offered Capela for DJ?  edit: Ok I see a rumor that we talked to Houston about a deal last offseason that gained some traction, but nothing ever materialized. It's hard to say what side backed out on that one, but if true it appears we did lose quite a bit of value we could have gained.

 

This FO is better than before, but other than the Blake trade and maybe Lou signing I haven't seen too many moves that have produced a lot of value. Time will tell on this draft.

Cp3 netted us a #1, Lou, Trez  and Dekker. We killed it.

Jul 8, 2018 8:29pm
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tullabye wrote:

Hitnrun24 wrote:

When were we offered Capela for DJ?  edit: Ok I see a rumor that we talked to Houston about a deal last offseason that gained some traction, but nothing ever materialized. It's hard to say what side backed out on that one, but if true it appears we did lose quite a bit of value we could have gained.

 

This FO is better than before, but other than the Blake trade and maybe Lou signing I haven't seen too many moves that have produced a lot of value. Time will tell on this draft.

Cp3 netted us a #1, Lou, Trez  and Dekker. We killed it.

and Beverley

Jul 8, 2018 9:28pm
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tullabye wrote:

Hitnrun24 wrote:

When were we offered Capela for DJ?  edit: Ok I see a rumor that we talked to Houston about a deal last offseason that gained some traction, but nothing ever materialized. It's hard to say what side backed out on that one, but if true it appears we did lose quite a bit of value we could have gained.

 

This FO is better than before, but other than the Blake trade and maybe Lou signing I haven't seen too many moves that have produced a lot of value. Time will tell on this draft.

Cp3 netted us a #1, Lou, Trez  and Dekker. We killed it.

 

Good point. We got a little lucky they kind of had to so Chris could get the max, nevertheless that's about as good as you'll ever do in a sign and trade.

Jul 9, 2018 7:18am
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We fleeced the Rockets. Now they're paying CP0 $40 mil a year to choke/get injured in the playoffs on an annual basis, well into his 30s. Glad it's not us. I'm much happier with Milos, Beverley and SGA on team-friendly deals. I really think SGA is going to be the perfect point guard for the modern NBA.

Jul 9, 2018 7:19am
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Hitnrun24 wrote:

tullabye wrote:

Hitnrun24 wrote:

When were we offered Capela for DJ?  edit: Ok I see a rumor that we talked to Houston about a deal last offseason that gained some traction, but nothing ever materialized. It's hard to say what side backed out on that one, but if true it appears we did lose quite a bit of value we could have gained.

 

This FO is better than before, but other than the Blake trade and maybe Lou signing I haven't seen too many moves that have produced a lot of value. Time will tell on this draft.

Cp3 netted us a #1, Lou, Trez  and Dekker. We killed it.

 

Good point. We got a little lucky they kind of had to so Chris could get the max, nevertheless that's about as good as you'll ever do in a sign and trade.

I forgot to include Beverly! Bev, Lou, Trez, Dekker and a #1. 

Jul 9, 2018 8:48am
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And Kawhi's value is sinking like a rock right now.  Celtics, Lakers, and Sixers are setting up their rosters right now so that they don't plan on having him.  Lakers want to settle in with a year of Lebron, Rondo, Stephenson, McGee and the youngsters Kuzma, Ball, and Ingram and see what happens.  They will wait out Kawhi until next summer.  Celtics don't want him with Haywood coming back next season as their starting SF.  They want to have minutes for Brown and Tatum so they don't really need Kawhi.  Sixers are another team who will wait a year for Kawhi to hit free agent status since they know he does not want to play there long term.  About the only team the Spurs have left to trade with is us.  We could give them Harris and two of our guards.  Let them have any two of them as long as one of them isn't SGA.  Make him untouchable.  Try and give them Robinson and Bev or Teodosic.  With Spurs losing Anderson and Parker they probably could use a couple of guards and we could afford to give them two.

Jul 9, 2018 9:15am
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VFHS wrote:

We fleeced the Rockets. Now they're paying CP0 $40 mil a year to choke/get injured in the playoffs on an annual basis, well into his 30s. Glad it's not us. I'm much happier with Milos, Beverley and SGA on team-friendly deals. I really think SGA is going to be the perfect point guard for the modern NBA.

Agree. By the fourth year of CP's deal, his contract will be an anchor to the Rockets just as SGA is becoming one of the best PGs in the league.

Jul 9, 2018 9:38am
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Mistwell wrote:

Can't they can just wait until the trade deadline and trade him to a playoff team for an expiring contract and a couple of draft picks. He will play for a playoff team?

I think holding him until the trade deadline and just sending him off to the highest bidder may be their best bet at this point, even if he just sits out and doesn't play this season.

Jul 9, 2018 9:55am
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trapp76 wrote:

Mistwell wrote:

Can't they can just wait until the trade deadline and trade him to a playoff team for an expiring contract and a couple of draft picks. He will play for a playoff team?

I think holding him until the trade deadline and just sending him off to the highest bidder may be their best bet at this point, even if he just sits out and doesn't play this season.

The bids would be at an all time low at that point. If he does not play, people will question his health.

Jul 9, 2018 10:23am
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gilp5 wrote:

trapp76 wrote:

Mistwell wrote:

Can't they can just wait until the trade deadline and trade him to a playoff team for an expiring contract and a couple of draft picks. He will play for a playoff team?

I think holding him until the trade deadline and just sending him off to the highest bidder may be their best bet at this point, even if he just sits out and doesn't play this season.

The bids would be at an all time low at that point. If he does not play, people will question his health.

No trade is going to get completed for him without a physical. 

Jul 9, 2018 10:28am
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He will play. It's bullshit his claim he will sit. SA should call his bluff if he tries to pull that. No better way to get Pop to do the opposite of what you want than to threaten him like that. I think Pop views that as a sign of weakness that sets a precedent for other players for years, and it would be worth burning the team in the short term to prevent setting a precedent like that. 

Jul 9, 2018 10:33am
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trapp76 wrote:

gilp5 wrote:

trapp76 wrote:

Mistwell wrote:

Can't they can just wait until the trade deadline and trade him to a playoff team for an expiring contract and a couple of draft picks. He will play for a playoff team?

I think holding him until the trade deadline and just sending him off to the highest bidder may be their best bet at this point, even if he just sits out and doesn't play this season.

The bids would be at an all time low at that point. If he does not play, people will question his health.

No trade is going to get completed for him without a physical. 

A physical won't reveal full playing strength. He was cleared by the Spurs medical staff but he claims their "physical" did not diagnose the full extent of his injury.

He also won't get paid if he doesn't play, right? There's no way he turns that money down unless he is hiding something.

Jul 9, 2018 10:43am
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Mistwell wrote:

He will play. It's bullshit his claim he will sit. SA should call his bluff if he tries to pull that. No better way to get Pop to do the opposite of what you want than to threaten him like that. I think Pop views that as a sign of weakness that sets a precedent for other players for years, and it would be worth burning the team in the short term to prevent setting a precedent like that. 

I think Pop may retire soon. That team is kind of falling apart and they're going to need a full rebuild soon. They just lost Anderson too.

Jul 9, 2018 10:46am
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He isn't going to sit out...and if he did he isn't the type of character guy I thought he was. who's to say he wouldn't do the same thing to us at some point?

Jul 12, 2018 2:13pm
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Reading the tea leaves it looks like a DeRozan for Kawhi trade is imminent. OddsShark has Toronto as +200 for landing Kawhi and DeRozan just deleted all of his Instragram posts.

Jul 12, 2018 2:16pm
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ClipperSisyphus wrote:

Reading the tea leaves it looks like a DeRozan for Kawhi trade is imminent. OddsShark has Toronto as +200 for landing Kawhi and DeRozan just deleted all of his Instragram posts.

Don't think Kawhi will re-sign there, but who knows.

Jul 12, 2018 4:09pm
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I like DeRozan, but he's about a push with Harris, and he's expensive. They must be offering something more than just DeRozan? Picks?

Jul 12, 2018 4:14pm
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Tobias is easily better than DeBrick DeRozan. But honestly, I'm fine not gutting our roster to acquire Kawhi with no guarantee he'll stay, no guarantee he won't quit on us like he quit on the Spurs, and not much resources left over to build a real team around him.

Jul 12, 2018 4:49pm
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Our best move all along was to try and sign him next off-season. 

Jul 12, 2018 4:54pm
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Let’s stay healthy and win 50 games and knock the Lakers out of playoffs in the 1st round 

Jul 13, 2018 8:55am
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It is getting late in July already.  At some point Kawhi has to get on the court and prove he is healthy.  A doctor saying he is medically cleared to play isn't going to be enough.  Training camps should start in slightly more than two months.  Remember that the NBA season starts earlier now so the players can have more days off between games.  Spurs taking a massive risk by waiting on this.  What if he can't or won't play in two months.  I would not take back DeRozan either if I were them.  The guy shoots mostly two point shots which is inefficient in today's game.  Not sure about his defense either.  Harris and two of our guards would be a much better package for them.

Jul 13, 2018 12:27pm
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trapp76 wrote:

ClipperSisyphus wrote:

Reading the tea leaves it looks like a DeRozan for Kawhi trade is imminent. OddsShark has Toronto as +200 for landing Kawhi and DeRozan just deleted all of his Instragram posts.

Don't think Kawhi will re-sign there, but who knows.

From what I'm getting Toronto is completely fine if he doesn't resign there. They could potentially make the ECF or the Finals next season with Kawhi which would be great for the city and Canada.. And of course they would want him to resign but if he leaves then they simply start their rebuild which it looks like they want to do anyways by dumping DeRozen. 

Jul 14, 2018 9:22am
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Nothing’s changed from Kawhi’s side from these standpoints: He still wants to go to Los Angeles, and he’s still not interested in being rented out for one season, so that being Philadelphia, Boston, Toronto or any other team. The thing that we should know is San Antonio has been in contact with Kawhi and his people, and they’ve told them that if something was to get real, real close, we’ll reach out to you. Well, it’s in their best interest and smart to reach out to him, and typically the other team that’s involved in the trade would be granted permission to reach out to the player that’s being traded. None of those things happened yesterday.”

Jul 14, 2018 9:23am
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“Kawhi, in meeting with Pop, Pop gave him every indication that he was going to trade him and he was going to try to make Kawhi happy,” Carter reported on Tuesday. “I never said that before, because I was holding it until now. So, all these discussions about Kawhi going to the East, I believe Popovich is trying to accommodate Kawhi and trying to please him.”

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Per Cris Carter 

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Clippers1121 wrote:

It is getting late in July already.  At some point Kawhi has to get on the court and prove he is healthy.  A doctor saying he is medically cleared to play isn't going to be enough.  Training camps should start in slightly more than two months.  Remember that the NBA season starts earlier now so the players can have more days off between games.  Spurs taking a massive risk by waiting on this.  What if he can't or won't play in two months.  I would not take back DeRozan either if I were them.  The guy shoots mostly two point shots which is inefficient in today's game.  Not sure about his defense either.  Harris and two of our guards would be a much better package for them.

 

He's also averaged between 7 - 8 FTAs per game the past 5 years.  His True Shooting percentage is solid the past 3 years, because of those free throw attempts.

Jul 17, 2018 2:10pm
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pro100 wrote:

trapp76 wrote:

ClipperSisyphus wrote:

Reading the tea leaves it looks like a DeRozan for Kawhi trade is imminent. OddsShark has Toronto as +200 for landing Kawhi and DeRozan just deleted all of his Instragram posts.

Don't think Kawhi will re-sign there, but who knows.

From what I'm getting Toronto is completely fine if he doesn't resign there. They could potentially make the ECF or the Finals next season with Kawhi which would be great for the city and Canada.. And of course they would want him to resign but if he leaves then they simply start their rebuild which it looks like they want to do anyways by dumping DeRozen. 

 

Why would they want to rebuild?  If they try to rebuild, they'll get into a stretch where they make the playoffs 2x in 11 years, like they did from 2002-2003 to 2012-2013.

 

Or, they'll turn into Detroit, who hasn't won a playoffs series since 2008.

Jul 17, 2018 5:58pm
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Cris Carter (@criscarter80) on First Things First: "Jerry West is trying to do everything he can and they have informed Kawhi and his camp, 'We are trying to move mountains to get you.' #Clippers

Jul 17, 2018 7:46pm
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I'm cool with us appearing to try to do everything to get Kawhi, but I don't know if I'd want to actually move mountains for him. If we get word he is coming next year then it'd be great to just sign him outright instead of giving up Tobias, Shai, Bev..