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Hello All:  I hope you are all well.  I'll be here on this site for two days.  If anyone would like to engage in civil dialogue about the Clippers - past issues, present issues, or future issues - I'll be happy to share my perspective.  Please ask away.  I will not engage in any personal vitriol and I hope - but cannot control if others do not - others do the same.  If you have a topic to discuss and you'd like my feedback, please start a topic/thread so I can see that topic/thread as opposed to one long thread on 3,000 issues.

Again, I hope all of you are doing well in your personal lives and that you are all healthy.  

Feb 5, 2018 1:49pm
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Welcome back.

 

Why only back for 2 days?

 

So does that mean you still follow the team?  In 2016, it seemed like you were taking a break from sports.

Feb 5, 2018 1:51pm
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Do you think Marjanovic should play?

 

And do you think he will play non garbage time minutes?

 

You can answer here in this thread, or in the dedicated thread below:

 

Marjanovic  <--- click on it

Feb 5, 2018 1:55pm
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Hey CA.  I was thinking the other day how you were all in on Steph Curry before the 2009 draft.  Trapp and I really liked Harden, but we both agreed it would be best to take Griffin because he was billed as the next Karl Malone.

Looking back, did the Clippers screw up that draft?

Feb 5, 2018 1:57pm
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Nuraman:  Thank you.  I'm not going to answer personal questions.
I don't know much about Marjonovic and I'm pretty sure most people outside of his hometown fans don't know much about his game.  But my guess is that yes, he should play limited minutes off the bench.  It's always a good idea to have a center on the court, even when you bring in the backups.  But if Doc didn't play Willie Reed, his only backup center, he's probably going to shy away from playing Marjonovic, his new backup center.  I'd guess that at some point Marjonovic will play and it will take Doc at least 3 weeks longer than everyone else to realize that he's good.  (If in fact, he is good.)  Doc will do everything he can to 'go small' and have a team full of guys who can hit threes.  And with backups, when you have quality 2's and 3's like we do, that's not the end of the world.

Again, if there's a separate topic, let's start a separate thread. 

Feb 5, 2018 1:59pm
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Hi Dyce.  I think anyone would rather have Steph Curry at this point than Blake Griffin.  But no, the Clippers did not screw up that draft.  They got Blake Griffin.  He turned the franchise around.  When they picked Michael Olowakandi with their first overall pick instead of Paul Pierce, Vince Carter and Dirk Nowitzki - that would be an example of screwing up a number one overall pick.

Feb 5, 2018 2:02pm
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Clipanswerman wrote:

Hi Dyce.  I think anyone would rather have Steph Curry at this point than Blake Griffin.  But no, the Clippers did not screw up that draft.  They got Blake Griffin.  He turned the franchise around.  When they picked Michael Olowakandi with their first overall pick instead of Paul Pierce, Vince Carter and Dirk Nowitzki - that would be an example of screwing up a number one overall pick.

How do we know this is the real CAM?

Feb 5, 2018 2:04pm
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Dyce, there is no end to 'what if's' but the first two years of their careers, Blake was the better player. And after that sensational and exciting rookie season, CP wanted to come here to play with Blake. Does CP come here at that time if we have Steph Curry after his first two seasons with those ankle problems? I doubt it, but who knows.
Feb 5, 2018 2:05pm
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Gilp, I'll let you figure that out!

Feb 5, 2018 2:10pm
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What is your take on the Griffin trade?  

Feb 5, 2018 2:14pm
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That's a whole new post ... let's not mix so many topics on one thread.....

Feb 5, 2018 2:27pm
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Clipanswerman wrote:

That's a whole new post ... let's not mix so many topics on one thread.....

 

There's a thread for it here:

 

What's your opinion on the Trade of Blake Griffin 

Feb 5, 2018 2:45pm
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Nuraman:  Good point.  Maybe it's better than to keep it all on one thread instead of going on threads that were long and started a few days ago.

It was one of the worst trades ever.  There are so many reasons it's a horrible trade, that I almost don't know where to start.
I was trying to rack my brains and think about what trades in the history of the league were worse and the only two that came to mind (I'm not talking about trades that turned out to be one-sided, I'm talking about trades that when they were made, they even made no sense).  The first trade was before the salary cap era.  That would be Kareem Abdul-Jabbar to the Lakers for a bag of chips.  But the salary cap era causes a whole new set of factors to be considered.  In the salary cap era, the only trade that comes to mind is Harden for several players and picks, the only one of consequence being Steven Adams.  
 

 

Feb 5, 2018 2:48pm
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Hey CA...good to have you back. What’s your thoughts on DJ situation? You were a big DJ supporter as I recall.

Feb 5, 2018 2:52pm
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Clipanswerman wrote:

Nuraman:  Good point.  Maybe it's better than to keep it all on one thread instead of going on threads that were long and started a few days ago.

It was one of the worst trades ever.  There are so many reasons it's a horrible trade, that I almost don't know where to start.
I was trying to rack my brains and think about what trades in the history of the league were worse and the only two that came to mind (I'm not talking about trades that turned out to be one-sided, I'm talking about trades that when they were made, they even made no sense).  The first trade was before the salary cap era.  That would be Kareem Abdul-Jabbar to the Lakers for a bag of chips.  But the salary cap era causes a whole new set of factors to be considered.  In the salary cap era, the only trade that comes to mind is Harden for several players and picks, the only one of consequence being Steven Adams.  
 

 

 

How does it compare to the Hornets trading Baron Davis to Golden State for Dale Davis and Speedy Claxton?

Feb 5, 2018 2:53pm
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Thoughts on the Jazz-Clippers playoffs series?

Feb 5, 2018 2:56pm
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Hi Tullabye.  Hope all is well.  My thoughts on DJ are the same as they've always been.  When he was drafted, I was ecstatic.  After his rookie contract I wanted to keep him.  The argument at that point was whether he could become Tyson Chandler.  (He didn't.  He became better.)  And the same after his next contract (The Dallas thing).  Same thing now.  Keep him.  He's great.

I'm amazed every time I hear someone say 'DJ's not that good, he's a bad shooter, you can't throw him the ball and have him score.'  You can count on one hand the number of players who are good at defense, shooting, ball handling, passing and interior play.  But for some reason, if a players is deficient at, say rebounding and defense, but can shoot, that somehow appears sooo much more important than someone who is a great defender and rebounder.  What makes criticism of DJ even more crazy, is he's a really good offensive player.  Charles Barkley said before the season that now we'd see DJ's dunks and numbers go down without CP.  Nope.  Every team will have a guy who can throw a lob (Lou's no CP, but he's not bad at it).  But there is only one guy in the history of the league who can catch a lob from anywhere and throw it down.  I think DJ is probably the consistently most underrated player in the league.

It's always easy to say 'well if we got so and so' we'd be good.  You tend to take the guys on your team for granted.  Take DJ off the Clips and you have a layup line.  And if we lose him, who's our center?  He'll be playing at this level for another two years, probably, then start a decline.  I'd do everything I could to keep him for four more years.

 

Feb 5, 2018 2:57pm
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Nuraman, Baron Davis does not compare to Blake Griffin.

Feb 5, 2018 2:59pm
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My thoughts on the Jazz-Clippers playoff series was this:

- It sucked that Blake got injured and couldn't play.
- CP was awesome in that series.
- Our bench sucked as it had for years because Doc was a horrible GM.
- The Jazz were a better coached team.
- Gordon Hayward is really good.

Feb 5, 2018 2:59pm
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Hi Tullabye.  Hope all is well.  My thoughts on DJ are the same as they've always been.  When he was drafted, I was ecstatic.  After his rookie contract I wanted to keep him.  The argument at that point was whether he could become Tyson Chandler.  (He didn't.  He became better.)  And the same after his next contract (The Dallas thing).  Same thing now.  Keep him.  He's great.

I'm amazed every time I hear someone say 'DJ's not that good, he's a bad shooter, you can't throw him the ball and have him score.'  You can count on one hand the number of players who are good at defense, shooting, ball handling, passing and interior play.  But for some reason, if a players is deficient at, say rebounding and defense, but can shoot, that somehow appears sooo much more important than someone who is a great defender and rebounder.  What makes criticism of DJ even more crazy, is he's a really good offensive player.  Charles Barkley said before the season that now we'd see DJ's dunks and numbers go down without CP.  Nope.  Every team will have a guy who can throw a lob (Lou's no CP, but he's not bad at it).  But there is only one guy in the history of the league who can catch a lob from anywhere and throw it down.  I think DJ is probably the consistently most underrated player in the league.

It's always easy to say 'well if we got so and so' we'd be good.  You tend to take the guys on your team for granted.  Take DJ off the Clips and you have a layup line.  And if we lose him, who's our center?  He'll be playing at this level for another two years, probably, then start a decline.  I'd do everything I could to keep him for four more years.

 

It's easy to say that DJ and Blake are good players. But are they good enough players for the prices they demand, eating up our salary cap? If DJ demands a max extension, is he worth it?

Feb 5, 2018 3:00pm
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Hi Tullabye.  Hope all is well.  My thoughts on DJ are the same as they've always been.  When he was drafted, I was ecstatic.  After his rookie contract I wanted to keep him.  The argument at that point was whether he could become Tyson Chandler.  (He didn't.  He became better.)  And the same after his next contract (The Dallas thing).  Same thing now.  Keep him.  He's great.

I'm amazed every time I hear someone say 'DJ's not that good, he's a bad shooter, you can't throw him the ball and have him score.'  You can count on one hand the number of players who are good at defense, shooting, ball handling, passing and interior play.  But for some reason, if a players is deficient at, say rebounding and defense, but can shoot, that somehow appears sooo much more important than someone who is a great defender and rebounder.  What makes criticism of DJ even more crazy, is he's a really good offensive player.  Charles Barkley said before the season that now we'd see DJ's dunks and numbers go down without CP.  Nope.  Every team will have a guy who can throw a lob (Lou's no CP, but he's not bad at it).  But there is only one guy in the history of the league who can catch a lob from anywhere and throw it down.  I think DJ is probably the consistently most underrated player in the league.

It's always easy to say 'well if we got so and so' we'd be good.  You tend to take the guys on your team for granted.  Take DJ off the Clips and you have a layup line.  And if we lose him, who's our center?  He'll be playing at this level for another two years, probably, then start a decline.  I'd do everything I could to keep him for four more years.

 

agree

Feb 5, 2018 3:11pm
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Gilp:  Yes, Blake is both worth it in a market sense (someone would offer him the max) and in an on the court sense.  He's great.  He has his flaws, he's not perfect.  But he's great.

I don't know what DJ is demanding and from what I'm reading, the market is thin this year, which means he may very well not get a 4 year (or whatever it is now) max contract from another team.  But my answer on DJ is pretty much now what it was all those years ago.  Whatever he's offered on the market, he'll be worth it. 

My biggest frustration over the last five years has not been Blake, CP or DJ.  Those three are great great players.  The problem is that Doc never found a single diamond in the rough and he insisted on playing his son - and signing his son - when his son sucked.  It was just exhausting to constantly blow leads when he came in.  We lost a few playoff series because of injuries - (and that's a legitimate point to say that CP and Blake are injury prone), and the two playoff series that were close - we won one (San Antonio) and lost one (OKC).  The killer was Houston.  Yes, our stars didn't come through in that game.  But you know what?  I believe that if we had a competent GM we would have had home court in that series.  Would we have won?  I don't know.  But it's not an unimportant point and I blame Doc for that lack of home court - his faith in Austin off the bench hurt our record.  When CP left, he spoke the truth.  Doc chooses his son over what's best for the team - every single time - and he cost CP, support in his prime years.  That support was really important because the West was really really tough during that time.  (Not as much today)  You have to have some quality role players.  You have to have one diamond in the rough develop over five years.  Zilch. Zip.  Nada.

 

 

 

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Feb 5, 2018 3:28pm
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Clipanswerman wrote:

Here for 2 days

Hello All:  I hope you are all well.  I'll be here on this site for two days.  If anyone would like to engage in civil dialogue about the Clippers - past issues, present issues, or future issues - I'll be happy to share my perspective.  Please ask away.  I will not engage in any personal vitriol and I hope - but cannot control if others do not - others do the same.  If you have a topic to discuss and you'd like my feedback, please start a topic/thread so I can see that topic/thread as opposed to one long thread on 3,000 issues.

Again, I hope all of you are doing well in your personal lives and that you are all healthy.  

Nice to see you again, old man.

I'd like your thoughts on potential DJ trades, on keeping or trading Lou Williams.

Finally, what do you think of our rookies, Evans, Thornwell, Milos and Wallace?

Feb 5, 2018 3:32pm
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I wouldn't trade DJ.  I wouldn't trade Lou Williams.  The Blake trade was really really bad.  Is the team coming or going?  Why trade him now?  We'd won 14 of 20, Gallo is about to return and the West after the top two is getting weaker.  Milos, Lou, Gallo, Blake and DJ?  I like that team.  And now we have a supporting cast.  Tyrone Wallace is a find.  Montrezl is great.  (Can Ralph stop saying 'he had a good month' or 'he had a good game' or 'he's been playing really well when given the chance?'  He's great.  Willie Reed is about as good a backup 5 as you'll find in the league.  Beverly says he might come back.  DeMarcus is out for the year.  Who's to say this team couldn't finish 6 or even 5 - and get to the second round?  Could we beat Houston?  Probably not, but it's not out of the question.  No one is beating Golden State, it appears.  So if we're going to trade an impact player - a star - and we want to win now - get a star.  If we want to trade him now so  we can win in the future, then get an absolute top pick for him.  At least top 3.  Not, what, 16?  Minnesota got the number one overall pick for Kevin Love.  

The CP trade is different.  Unlike Blake, CP didn't want to be hear (I don't blame him, Doc can't see past Austin).  CP hadn't just signed a 5 year deal.  And CP isn't 28.  Given the pressure to get something for CP - Jerry West and or Frank did amazing.  They got two young players and two now contributors.  You don't want to trade CP.  But if he forces a trade - and he played his cards that way - given that - the Clips did as good as they could do.  They did really well in that trade, considering the circumstances.

Feb 5, 2018 3:34pm
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here, not 'hear'.  :)  

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here, not 'hear'.  :)  

Feb 5, 2018 3:39pm
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The CP trade - and all of the terrific off season moves - signing Gallo, signing Milos, picking up depth from Houston and signing Willie Reed - were all designed to maintain a competitive team with a new approach (two great players up front) and real, true depth.  Then they trade Blake for basically one player who's nice but no Blake, and a draft pick that has a very slight chance of being an impact player.  The 'financial flexibility' argument doesn't really kick in in full until 2019.  So is the team coming or going?  I don't think they know.  I don't think anyone knows.  You can't be half pregnant.  Tobias Harris is nice, but if you're building for the future, it's about high draft picks.  If you want to put the best team you can on the floor, Blake is better than Harris.  Either build for the future or try to win. Don't be half-pregnant.

Feb 5, 2018 3:40pm
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Clipanswerman wrote:

I wouldn't trade DJ.  I wouldn't trade Lou Williams.  The Blake trade was really really bad.  Is the team coming or going?  Why trade him now?  We'd won 14 of 20, Gallo is about to return and the West after the top two is getting weaker.  Milos, Lou, Gallo, Blake and DJ?  I like that team.  And now we have a supporting cast.  Tyrone Wallace is a find.  Montrezl is great.  (Can Ralph stop saying 'he had a good month' or 'he had a good game' or 'he's been playing really well when given the chance?'  He's great.  Willie Reed is about as good a backup 5 as you'll find in the league.  Beverly says he might come back.  DeMarcus is out for the year.  Who's to say this team couldn't finish 6 or even 5 - and get to the second round?  Could we beat Houston?  Probably not, but it's not out of the question.  No one is beating Golden State, it appears.  So if we're going to trade an impact player - a star - and we want to win now - get a star.  If we want to trade him now so  we can win in the future, then get an absolute top pick for him.  At least top 3.  Not, what, 16?  Minnesota got the number one overall pick for Kevin Love.  

The CP trade is different.  Unlike Blake, CP didn't want to be hear (I don't blame him, Doc can't see past Austin).  CP hadn't just signed a 5 year deal.  And CP isn't 28.  Given the pressure to get something for CP - Jerry West and or Frank did amazing.  They got two young players and two now contributors.  You don't want to trade CP.  But if he forces a trade - and he played his cards that way - given that - the Clips did as good as they could do.  They did really well in that trade, considering the circumstances.

I agree with the posters above - it is nice to see you back.

One more question - what do you think about the Gallo signing this offseason?

Feb 5, 2018 3:43pm
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If you're going to blow it up, blow it up.  If you can't get a top pick for DJ - and I mean a top pick - and a top pick for Lou too - then I'd rather be competitive this year and hope to re-sign them both in what appears to be a summer that will favor the teams in negotiations.

Feb 5, 2018 3:46pm
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Gilp:  I loved the Gallo signing.  I still do.  (But he needs to get in better shape).  But I still like the signing.  He's a great shooter and a really good player.  We haven't seen the real Gallo yet.  We're trying to win now, right?  If not, as evidenced by the statements calling for the brilliance of preparing for our future (a mid first for Blake, which isn't much) or 'flexibility' in a few years, then don't sign Gallo.  Got to decide if we're coming or going.  We didn't know.  

Feb 5, 2018 3:56pm
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Clipanswerman wrote:

If you're going to blow it up, blow it up.  If you can't get a top pick for DJ - and I mean a top pick - and a top pick for Lou too - then I'd rather be competitive this year and hope to re-sign them both in what appears to be a summer that will favor the teams in negotiations.

+1 Agree with this.

Feb 5, 2018 3:58pm
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Do you want to know what any of us think about a topic?  Or are you reading some of the other threads to get that information?

Feb 5, 2018 4:12pm
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Thanks, Nuraman.  I'm not trying to be provacative, but I know which posters see things from an intelligent, objective view and which ones don't.  Some of the bright ones do provide insight.  I do check the board.  The guys who in my opinion deserve credit for knowing their stuff and having the rare ability to be a fan while also being objective are Tullabye, MannyCoon, Corkscrew and VHFS (I think that's his name).  But that's just my opinion.  I'm not perfect.  But you all know the track record here.  :)

Feb 5, 2018 4:16pm
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Thanks.

Feb 5, 2018 4:34pm
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Clipanswerman wrote:

The CP trade - and all of the terrific off season moves - signing Gallo, signing Milos, picking up depth from Houston and signing Willie Reed - were all designed to maintain a competitive team with a new approach (two great players up front) and real, true depth.  Then they trade Blake for basically one player who's nice but no Blake, and a draft pick that has a very slight chance of being an impact player.  The 'financial flexibility' argument doesn't really kick in in full until 2019.  So is the team coming or going?  I don't think they know.  I don't think anyone knows.  You can't be half pregnant.  Tobias Harris is nice, but if you're building for the future, it's about high draft picks.  If you want to put the best team you can on the floor, Blake is better than Harris.  Either build for the future or try to win. Don't be half-pregnant.

That's pretty much what I was saying about the trade too. Nobody wanted to hear it because many of our "fans" have convinced themselves that Blake sucks.

Feb 5, 2018 4:37pm
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The BG23 trade was a great trade for us.... we were not and let me say it again, we were not winning a championship w BG23 on our roster anytime soon... gives us great flexibility for 2018 and or 2019.... 

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V-Ice. You may be right.  Maybe we weren't winning a championship with Blake anytime soon.  But citing that as the rationale for it being 'a great trade' doesn't necessarily follow.  It's like saying someone should be on the all-star team, but then not being able to say who should be removed from that spot.  Do you think Tobias Harris now means we're winning a championship 'anytime soon'?  And since our 'financial flexibility' kicks in when Harris' contract his up, then wouldn't it have been better to get a bad contract with one year or two years on it and a top draft pick? 

I think you have to answer this question first.  When is it our goal to be championship worthy?  Is it in 2019 when we won't have had a top draft pick this year or that year but somehow we'll attract one or two free agents to come here?  Top free agents don't go to bad teams.  Or is it to be good in say 2021 when our top draft pick from 2018 or 2019 (whichever one we got for Blake) starts to mature and we can get a free agent to complement that player?  I guess it's kind of like Trump and his supporters saying 'Make America Great Again.'  When was America great?  What year are you specifically referring to? 

 

Feb 5, 2018 4:52pm
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Clipanswerman wrote:

I blame Doc for that lack of home court - his faith in Austin off the bench hurt our record.  When CP left, he spoke the truth.  Doc chooses his son over what's best for the team - every single time - and he cost CP, support in his prime years.  

 

I knew I would like you.  I have heard so many bad things about you from the other members here.  These same people condone Docs nepotism and don't believe it destroyed the team.  We had so much going on for us and Doc destroyed it.  Doc thought he was immortal since he feels he was the one that removed Sterling.

Please stay with us and bring these members to the righteous path!!

Feb 5, 2018 4:56pm
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Thanks for the compliment.  Two days is enough though for me at this point in my life.  Thanks.

Feb 5, 2018 5:38pm
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Our window to compete closed the moment we had to trade CP3. Building around Blake and DJ at their current age isn't possible. So trading both and doing a complete rebuild is the right call. You can try to argue we didn't get enough in return, but truth is we likely took the best offer. When you're trading a player his value is only what other teams are offering. Anyway, I think we're probably try to move Bradley before the deadline and Harris on draft night. So don't get too attached.
Feb 5, 2018 8:54pm
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SamIAm19 wrote:

Clipanswerman wrote:

I blame Doc for that lack of home court - his faith in Austin off the bench hurt our record.  When CP left, he spoke the truth.  Doc chooses his son over what's best for the team - every single time - and he cost CP, support in his prime years.  

 

I knew I would like you.  I have heard so many bad things about you from the other members here.  These same people condone Docs nepotism and don't believe it destroyed the team.  We had so much going on for us and Doc destroyed it.  Doc thought he was immortal since he feels he was the one that removed Sterling.

Please stay with us and bring these members to the righteous path!!

 

I don't think there's many of these.  I think most don't condone the nepotism.

 

And I've been done with Rivers since 2015, even as a coach.

Feb 5, 2018 9:01pm
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Clipanswerman wrote:

Nuraman, Baron Davis does not compare to Blake Griffin.

 

Thanks for the response.  We may disagree on this, but I think the New Orleans version of Baron Davis was much better than the Golden State version, and was one of the top PGs in the league at both ends of the floor.  So, in a sense, in that way he is comparable to Griffin when New Orleans salary dumped him.

 

I did not like the Golden State version of Baron Davis.

 

But, we may disagree on their respective values (New Orleans Baron Davis vs. Clippers Blake Griffin), so ok.

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nuraman00 wrote:

Clipanswerman wrote:

Nuraman, Baron Davis does not compare to Blake Griffin.

 

Thanks for the response.  We may disagree on this, but I think the New Orleans version of Baron Davis was much better than the Golden State version, and was one of the top PGs in the league at both ends of the floor.  So, in a sense, in that way he is comparable to Griffin when New Orleans salary dumped him.

 

I did not like the Golden State version of Baron Davis.

 

But, we may disagree on their respective values (New Orleans Baron Davis vs. Clippers Blake Griffin), so ok.

 

I agree actually that New Orleans Baron was a really good player, easily right up there with Blake's best years. Obviously Clippers Baron was not close.

Feb 5, 2018 11:34pm
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Hitnrun24 wrote:

nuraman00 wrote:

Clipanswerman wrote:

Nuraman, Baron Davis does not compare to Blake Griffin.

 

Thanks for the response.  We may disagree on this, but I think the New Orleans version of Baron Davis was much better than the Golden State version, and was one of the top PGs in the league at both ends of the floor.  So, in a sense, in that way he is comparable to Griffin when New Orleans salary dumped him.

 

I did not like the Golden State version of Baron Davis.

 

But, we may disagree on their respective values (New Orleans Baron Davis vs. Clippers Blake Griffin), so ok.

 

I agree actually that New Orleans Baron was a really good player, easily right up there with Blake's best years. Obviously Clippers Baron was not close.

 

The other difference is that once the Hornets traded away Baron Davis and Jamal Mashburn by the end of the 2005 trading deadline (with Magloire being traded away later in the offseason), they had a clear direction of a rebuild.

 

Their "best" players after the trading deadline were Bostjan Nachbar, Chris Anderson, and Dan Dickau.  Someone on the Hornets forum created an avatar and called them the B.A.D. boys, and had a picture of all 3.  Going young was their direction.

 

I do think the Clippers should still keep Jordan, but after trading away Griffin, not sure if they should keep Lou Williams.  It depends on if they can keep him on a good deal.  They may be able to, you never know.

Feb 5, 2018 11:53pm
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Should Jordan do the dunk contest again?

Feb 5, 2018 11:53pm
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Why is Powell still with the team?

Feb 6, 2018 9:16am
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Nuraman:

Who cares about the dunk contest?  I'd rather DJ get rest and have some fun.  

Powell - why not?  I don't blame the medical staff for Blake and CPs injuries.  They're both injury prone.  It comes with the territory on them.  CP jams his finger a lot.  Blake is injury prone and he plays with abandon.  It's those injuries though that I don't blame him for.  I don't blame him for his two injuries this year.  The first one, I blame on Austin for stupidly jumping on Blake's leg when Blake was on the floor and the concussion - what really bothers me is the way the game is reffed.  No one gets popped in the head more than Blake.  That's a big part of the reason he stopped taking it to the basket.  There really is no deterrent to putting your elbow in Blake's face when he's going for a poster.  90% of the time that flagrant foul (clearly they weren't going for the ball, they intended to foul) is called a common foul.  And even when it was a flagrant, that really wasn't a deterrent.  Worth it not to get posterized.  The way the game is called hampered Blake's big advantage.  What makes it more bullshit is when a player bumps a player and their body moves in response, it's called a foul.  When Blake is bumped twice as hard but his body doesn't move because he's so strong and he's on the move, it almost always was not called a foul.  That completely makes no sense.  We lost on average two points per game when Blake didn't get 'and one's' when he made a layup and was chopped on the head and another point a game when the opponent's foul on Blake wasn't called a flagrant.  Of course Blake complained to the refs more than anyone.  His power made him the hardest player in the league to ref based on how the refs call games (which is often how players react or what the ref anticipates or doesn't anticipate.  Blake took more punishment than anyone else I've ever seen.  And the reffing in the NBA is really bad.    

Feb 6, 2018 9:37am
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Good to hear your takes on these various issues.  Do you think Doc Rivers should be let go as coach?  If so when?

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Clipanswerman wrote:

Nuraman:

Who cares about the dunk contest?  I'd rather DJ get rest and have some fun.  

Powell - why not?  I don't blame the medical staff for Blake and CPs injuries.  They're both injury prone.  It comes with the territory on them.  CP jams his finger a lot.  Blake is injury prone and he plays with abandon.  It's those injuries though that I don't blame him for.  I don't blame him for his two injuries this year.  The first one, I blame on Austin for stupidly jumping on Blake's leg when Blake was on the floor and the concussion - what really bothers me is the way the game is reffed.  No one gets popped in the head more than Blake.  That's a big part of the reason he stopped taking it to the basket.  There really is no deterrent to putting your elbow in Blake's face when he's going for a poster.  90% of the time that flagrant foul (clearly they weren't going for the ball, they intended to foul) is called a common foul.  And even when it was a flagrant, that really wasn't a deterrent.  Worth it not to get posterized.  The way the game is called hampered Blake's big advantage.  What makes it more bullshit is when a player bumps a player and their body moves in response, it's called a foul.  When Blake is bumped twice as hard but his body doesn't move because he's so strong and he's on the move, it almost always was not called a foul.  That completely makes no sense.  We lost on average two points per game when Blake didn't get 'and one's' when he made a layup and was chopped on the head and another point a game when the opponent's foul on Blake wasn't called a flagrant.  Of course Blake complained to the refs more than anyone.  His power made him the hardest player in the league to ref based on how the refs call games (which is often how players react or what the ref anticipates or doesn't anticipate.  Blake took more punishment than anyone else I've ever seen.  And the reffing in the NBA is really bad.    

 

Can you explain what happened with Jared Dudley?  Was it poor management of his injuries or was it Doc rushing him to play?

Also Blake has been misdiagnosed by the same training staff and has had to stay out longer. 

http://www.slamonline.com/nba/blake-griffin-out-december-toe-injury/

I think our medical staff needs to improve tremendously, regardless of how often our players get hurt.

Feb 6, 2018 9:56am
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Doc should be let go as a coach this week only if the Clips can't get rid of Austin by the trade deadline.  If the Clips do get rid of Austin, then Doc should be let go in the offseason.  He really hurt this franchise.

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Jared Dudley is a very limited basketball player who was really bad.  Whether he had a nagging injury or not is kind of irrelevant.  Instead of awful, he might have been really bad.  

I'm not a doctor and I don't believe Jason Powell is a Doctor and I really don't know if our medical staff needs to be improved.