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That low Houston first rounder wouldn't have made any difference. 

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if jerry west thinks he’s worth it, then so do I.
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In my mind there`s no doubt he`s the caliber of player who can lead a team to a championship one day. What he has done so far in his career is unprecedented, nobody came even remotely close, he just hit 19 years of age and already has a legendary career overseas.

Not only is he incredibly talented, but he has proven to be clutch, a winner and a natural born leader. Clippers should do everything they can to try and get him, but I would be shocked if he`s not drafted No.1 or No.2 unless he says he doesn`t want to play for Suns / Kings. I`d draft him No.1 in a heartbeat.

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Welcome back, Rostick.

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Woj: Sacramento at #2, Atlanta at #3, and Memphis at #4 are taking a bunch of calls from teams who want to trade up. Those teams include the Clippers and Nuggets. ... Brad Turner: Kings are not interested in trading No. 2 pick to Clippers for their No. 12, 13 picks, per source.
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We moving up for Doncic (being compared to Hedo Turkolu ) but way more upside and or Michael Porter Jr (being compared to KD)
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V-Ice wrote:
We moving up for Doncic (being compared to Hedo Turkolu ) but way more upside and or Michael Porter Jr (being compared to KD)

Porter with our medical staff is a disaster waiting to happen. And nobody who's actually watched Doncic play is comparing him to Hedo with a straight face.

Jun 18, 2018 9:13pm
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Look at Hedo’s game coming up... But Doncic has way more upside.
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I think the Doncic stuff is a smoke screen. Teams are trying to give hope to other teams that he may slip so that they may trade up, but not too far. He's not getting past 2 so we are pretty much out of the running.

 

Porter is starting to feel like he's going to go higher than expected. The middle of the lottery is turning into a bit of a crap shoot so I think someone will be willing to gamble on his upside especially when we just saw a similar player (Tatum) do so well. Both these guys will come with some serious questions on defense though.

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I would absolutely love if it is all a smoke screen and they move up and everyone thinks that theyre taking Doncic or Porter and they get Bagley. He is soooo skilled for his age. He graduated high school a year early. Had a game against FSU going for 30 and 20. His numbers are the same as Ayton, and he's not as hyped as Ayton. He willl probably have the most immediate impact in this draft.

 

There were rumors that the kings are not interested in trading #2 for #12 and #13. I've been told that's not completely true. It just may take a tiny more to pull it off and the Clippers might not want to do that. 

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Look at Hedo’s game coming up... But Doncic has way more upside.
Doncic is Ben Simmons with a jump shot. If he's Hedo, then who do you compare Simmons to?
Jun 19, 2018 7:31am
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I see Doncic as a possible better version of Joe Ingles. 

Jun 19, 2018 7:56am
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Yeah there is something about his skin tone than says Ingles and Turkoglu. Sort like how Rubio was a Nash/ Maravich who could shoot and not rebound or defend as oppossed to a Kidd/Rondo type who defend and rebound but is a poor shooter.
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Yeah there is something about his skin tone than says Ingles and Turkoglu. Sort like how Rubio was a Nash/ Maravich who could shoot and not rebound or defend as oppossed to a Kidd/Rondo type who defend and rebound but is a poor shooter.

LOL.

I know, I love that. Happens every single year. White player MUST BE COMPARED to other white player and other white player only.

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I would absolutely love if it is all a smoke screen and they move up and everyone thinks that theyre taking Doncic or Porter and they get Bagley. He is soooo skilled for his age. He graduated high school a year early. Had a game against FSU going for 30 and 20. His numbers are the same as Ayton, and he's not as hyped as Ayton. He willl probably have the most immediate impact in this draft.

 

There were rumors that the kings are not interested in trading #2 for #12 and #13. I've been told that's not completely true. It just may take a tiny more to pull it off and the Clippers might not want to do that. 

Nobody is gonna take 12 and 13 for a top 5 pick, that would be beyond dumb. We have to be offering more than that if we are serious about moving up.

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Nobody is gonna take 12 and 13 for a top 5 pick, that would be beyond dumb. We have to be offering more than that if we are serious about moving up.

Good point. They can have Austin, too.

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trapp76 wrote:

mannycoon wrote:
Yeah there is something about his skin tone than says Ingles and Turkoglu. Sort like how Rubio was a Nash/ Maravich who could shoot and not rebound or defend as oppossed to a Kidd/Rondo type who defend and rebound but is a poor shooter.

LOL.

I know, I love that. Happens every single year. White player MUST BE COMPARED to other white player and other white player only.

My comparison had nothing to do with skin tone. It has to do with skillset. Both ingles and Doncic are good passers, good shooters, but both slower and have slow lateral quickness on defense. I mean I can't really think of too many other players in the league who fit the bill. I would have said Pierce, but Doncic is a much better passer. I think he will be a better version of ingles, but similar in terms of player. 

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trapp76 wrote:

gpack17 wrote:

I would absolutely love if it is all a smoke screen and they move up and everyone thinks that theyre taking Doncic or Porter and they get Bagley. He is soooo skilled for his age. He graduated high school a year early. Had a game against FSU going for 30 and 20. His numbers are the same as Ayton, and he's not as hyped as Ayton. He willl probably have the most immediate impact in this draft.

 

There were rumors that the kings are not interested in trading #2 for #12 and #13. I've been told that's not completely true. It just may take a tiny more to pull it off and the Clippers might not want to do that. 

Nobody is gonna take 12 and 13 for a top 5 pick, that would be beyond dumb. We have to be offering more than that if we are serious about moving up.

I agree that would be dumb. That is just what i've heard. I also don't think the clippers view trading both pics to move up 3 to 5 spots as worth it. I think they find a way to get into the top 5 somehow, or they stand pat. I think it is beyond dumb if they trade both picks and land at pick 8 or 9. 

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gpack17 wrote:

trapp76 wrote:

mannycoon wrote:
Yeah there is something about his skin tone than says Ingles and Turkoglu. Sort like how Rubio was a Nash/ Maravich who could shoot and not rebound or defend as oppossed to a Kidd/Rondo type who defend and rebound but is a poor shooter.

LOL.

I know, I love that. Happens every single year. White player MUST BE COMPARED to other white player and other white player only.

My comparison had nothing to do with skin tone. It has to do with skillset. Both ingles and Doncic are good passers, good shooters, but both slower and have slow lateral quickness on defense. I mean I can't really think of too many other players in the league who fit the bill. I would have said Pierce, but Doncic is a much better passer. I think he will be a better version of ingles, but similar in terms of player. 

 

The Pierce comp is actually not bad, better than the Ingles one to me. I had another white on white comp, a less athletic Hayward. Another guy who we haven't been linked to that I would be happy with is Jaren Jackson, prototypical 5 in the current game. I want no part of Bagley if we move up.

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gpack17 wrote:

trapp76 wrote:

gpack17 wrote:

I would absolutely love if it is all a smoke screen and they move up and everyone thinks that theyre taking Doncic or Porter and they get Bagley. He is soooo skilled for his age. He graduated high school a year early. Had a game against FSU going for 30 and 20. His numbers are the same as Ayton, and he's not as hyped as Ayton. He willl probably have the most immediate impact in this draft.

 

There were rumors that the kings are not interested in trading #2 for #12 and #13. I've been told that's not completely true. It just may take a tiny more to pull it off and the Clippers might not want to do that. 

Nobody is gonna take 12 and 13 for a top 5 pick, that would be beyond dumb. We have to be offering more than that if we are serious about moving up.

I agree that would be dumb. That is just what i've heard. I also don't think the clippers view trading both pics to move up 3 to 5 spots as worth it. I think they find a way to get into the top 5 somehow, or they stand pat. I think it is beyond dumb if they trade both picks and land at pick 8 or 9. 

I also think there is a somewhat likely scenario where the Clippers trade down or trade away one of their picks.  A lot depends on their plans for team-building, free agents, cap, positional fit, player options, trades, and what they saw during workouts.  And how many of last year's youngsters they want to keep and give PT to. There's a lot of moving parts and a lot of different paths this offseason can take.  Maybe they saw two players that they just have to have in the draft. Or maybe they werent impressed with anybody that would be available at 12.  THe first priority is likely to be to trade up, but after that fails there are a lot of diverging paths to take.

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Also there are salary scenarios like this, where the Clips could use the 13th pick to move one of their unwanted salaries:

"The Hawks have made it clear they would take on contract money in exchange for additional draft assets, so it seems likely the Hawks will be active, even if it’s not moving the third pick."

 

 

Jun 19, 2018 12:37pm
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He actually remind me of a young Joe Johnson

Jun 19, 2018 12:41pm
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JGlanton wrote:

Also there are salary scenarios like this, where the Clips could use the 13th pick to move one of their unwanted salaries:

"The Hawks have made it clear they would take on contract money in exchange for additional draft assets, so it seems likely the Hawks will be active, even if it’s not moving the third pick."

Gallo is the only player on our roster I may think about doing that for, but I still probably wouldn't. I would rather have the pick unless we had assurances that the cap space freed up would be going to a star free agent.

Hawks are interesting because they also have #19 and #30.

I may dump Gallo for the price of moving down from 13 to 19, but I don't think I would do it for the 13th pick straight up.

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I would definitely do 13 and Gallo for 19, that's huge relief for 6 spots down

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We have our trade exception, Wes Johnson, and Boban as other items they might want to use/move.

Jun 19, 2018 1:24pm
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Any realistic chances we end up in the 4 or 5 spot?

I would certainly take on both Mathews and Parsons contracts to move up. It would take a few years for our young guys to challenge so two years with guys like Gallinari, Parsons, and Mathews doesn't really matter. And it's not like they're bad players.

I'd do DJ and 12 for Mathews and 5, as well as Tobias and filler( Jr., if he opts in) for Parsons and 4.

 

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I would definitely do 13 and Gallo for 19, that's huge relief for 6 spots down

Would you do 13 and Gallo for #30?

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trapp76 wrote:

Hitnrun24 wrote:

I would definitely do 13 and Gallo for 19, that's huge relief for 6 spots down

Would you do 13 and Gallo for #30?

No.

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datlbn1p wrote:

He actually remind me of a young Joe Johnson

 

Good post.

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We are not trading down unless some bg FA calls an tells us to clear space. Other than that we are not trading down

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Looks like Atlanta plans to take Doncic at 3.  Kings have already rebuffed our trade proposals for #2.  No Doncic for us.

Jun 19, 2018 8:01pm
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Luka puts the Liga ACB championship in his pocket with this funky three point shot:

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Bamba, Jackson, and Doncic refuse to submit medical records or workout for the Kings.

 

Mo Bamba has refused to come to work out for Memphis, refused to share his medicals, and has told them openly he would prefer not to be in Memphis."

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Jackson has also refused to work out for Memphis or give medical.  Not sure what Memphis does if Ayton, Bagley, and Doncic are off the board.  Do they draft a guy that has refused to work out for them?

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“The Atlanta Hawks have dangled their No. 19 and 30 picks to move up in the draft, league sources told The Athletic. The Los Angeles Clippers (picks 12 and 13) and Denver (pick 14) are among the targets for Atlanta, league sources say.” Looks like they are offering 19 and 30 for 13. I don’t think I would do that unless they take Gallo.
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trapp76 wrote:
“The Atlanta Hawks have dangled their No. 19 and 30 picks to move up in the draft, league sources told The Athletic. The Los Angeles Clippers (picks 12 and 13) and Denver (pick 14) are among the targets for Atlanta, league sources say.” Looks like they are offering 19 and 30 for 13. I don’t think I would do that unless they take Gallo.
Dont worry because that is not happening and no way Jerry would make such a dumb decision. you dont trade out of a draft that is strong 1-14 and then gets real weak just to dump gallo with the hopes it allows us to go after a FA next year.
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There's players every year that refuse to work out for certain teams.

 

Some teams draft them anyways.

Jun 20, 2018 8:18am
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Six best NBA draft trades we'd like to see:

 

The Clips move up

 

Clippers get: Chandler Parsons, No. 4 and No. 32

Grizzlies get: Danilo Gallinari, No. 12 and No. 13

 

 

Note: Clippers do the deal only if Luka Doncic or Mohamed Bamba is available at No. 4.

Andrew Han: Memphis might possess one of the worst contracts in the league and almost exclusively because of health. When the Grizzlies signed Parsons to a four-year, $94 million deal in 2016, he was supposed to be the shooting wing creator long missing to buttress Mike Conley and Marc Gasol.

In Gallo, the Grizzlies get to roll the dice a second time on said wing creator in the Conley-Gasol era while shaving $3 million off their payroll to slide back eight spots and pick up a second lottery pick.

The Clippers get a potential foundational piece in Doncic or Bamba to build on the ashes of Lob City for the price of a modest payroll increase and loss of a second pick. The second lottery pick might be the sticking point, though, as Parsons is unlikely to be healthier than Gallo. And, of course, LA's sights should remain focused on acquiring Kawhi Leonard, the disgruntled Finals MVP in San Antonio, as its chief priority.

 

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/underestimated23835835/2018-nba-draft-trades-best-deals-see

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babyradar01 wrote:
trapp76 wrote:
“The Atlanta Hawks have dangled their No. 19 and 30 picks to move up in the draft, league sources told The Athletic. The Los Angeles Clippers (picks 12 and 13) and Denver (pick 14) are among the targets for Atlanta, league sources say.” Looks like they are offering 19 and 30 for 13. I don’t think I would do that unless they take Gallo.
Dont worry because that is not happening and no way Jerry would make such a dumb decision. you dont trade out of a draft that is strong 1-14 and then gets real weak just to dump gallo with the hopes it allows us to go after a FA next year.

I think the main story here is that we're having trade talks with the Hawks. It really does seem like the front office is focused on trading up for Doncic.

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JGlanton wrote:

Six best NBA draft trades we'd like to see:

 

The Clips move up

 

Clippers get: Chandler Parsons, No. 4 and No. 32

Grizzlies get: Danilo Gallinari, No. 12 and No. 13

 

 

Note: Clippers do the deal only if Luka Doncic or Mohamed Bamba is available at No. 4.

Andrew Han: Memphis might possess one of the worst contracts in the league and almost exclusively because of health. When the Grizzlies signed Parsons to a four-year, $94 million deal in 2016, he was supposed to be the shooting wing creator long missing to buttress Mike Conley and Marc Gasol.

In Gallo, the Grizzlies get to roll the dice a second time on said wing creator in the Conley-Gasol era while shaving $3 million off their payroll to slide back eight spots and pick up a second lottery pick.

The Clippers get a potential foundational piece in Doncic or Bamba to build on the ashes of Lob City for the price of a modest payroll increase and loss of a second pick. The second lottery pick might be the sticking point, though, as Parsons is unlikely to be healthier than Gallo. And, of course, LA's sights should remain focused on acquiring Kawhi Leonard, the disgruntled Finals MVP in San Antonio, as its chief priority.

 

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/underestimated23835835/2018-nba-draft-trades-best-deals-see

I think I make that trade if I'm the Clippers

Jun 20, 2018 9:59am
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We could be trying to trade up just so we can package that pick in a deal to get Kawhi.

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trapp76 wrote:

We could be trying to trade up just so we can package that pick in a deal to get Kawhi.

Hope not. That would be a shortsighted panic move.

Jun 20, 2018 11:03am
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trapp76 wrote:
“The Atlanta Hawks have dangled their No. 19 and 30 picks to move up in the draft, league sources told The Athletic. The Los Angeles Clippers (picks 12 and 13) and Denver (pick 14) are among the targets for Atlanta, league sources say.” Looks like they are offering 19 and 30 for 13. I don’t think I would do that unless they take Gallo.
What about 19, 30, Schroeder for Gallo and 13? I heard they want to move him anyway. I’m not necessarily sold on him as an All-Star caliber PG but he definently is above average.
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Dyce wrote:

trapp76 wrote:

Hitnrun24 wrote:

I would definitely do 13 and Gallo for 19, that's huge relief for 6 spots down

Would you do 13 and Gallo for #30?

No.

 

It's close, but no. I feel like there's still likely to be someone who slips to 19, but by 30 the odds are pretty low so that is almost a straight dump and I don't think Gallo is that level bad to do that. I think the Hawks want Doncic too so I don't think any way he gets past 3.

 

Apparently the Kings really do not like Doncic so I'd love to get up to 2 in some kind of 3 way deal. I don't think they'd take just 12/13 to go up to 2 because I think they still want a shot at Bagley, but if we can get up to 4 and then swap that for their 2 that could be our chance. The Hawks look like they may be trying to collect more picks to get to 1.

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OGClipsFan32 wrote:
trapp76 wrote:
“The Atlanta Hawks have dangled their No. 19 and 30 picks to move up in the draft, league sources told The Athletic. The Los Angeles Clippers (picks 12 and 13) and Denver (pick 14) are among the targets for Atlanta, league sources say.” Looks like they are offering 19 and 30 for 13. I don’t think I would do that unless they take Gallo.
What about 19, 30, Schroeder for Gallo and 13? I heard they want to move him anyway. I’m not necessarily sold on him as an All-Star caliber PG but he definently is above average.
Schroeder might be facing a felony charge. Him and his crew beat up a dude pretty badly.
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Pass on Schroeder.  High turnovers, low shooting efficiency but shoots a whole lot

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“The Memphis Grizzlies are in discussions with a number of teams to trade the No. 4 pick in Thursday's NBA draft, league sources tell ESPN. Any such trade would likely include forward Chandler Parsons, whose contract is considered an albatross because of his knee problems. The Grizzlies have several potential trade partners, as the Dallas Mavericks, Orlando Magic, Chicago Bulls, New York Knicks, Denver Nuggets, Boston Celtics and LA Clippers have shown varying degrees of interest in a deal, a source told ESPN.”
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New Team Name: The LA Albatrosses

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So Memphis is willing to deal 4 to get off Parsons, but probably wants a pick in the mid to late lottery back. I still think they'll wait to see who's there before agreeing to do that and if they don't love someone maybe someone else will love someone enough to eat that Parsons deal.