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LATimes Clipper News
Mike Scott is glad to get the opportunity to play for Clippers coach Doc Rivers

NBA veteran Mike Scott always has been a fan of Clippers coach Doc Rivers. When the Clippers called the 6-foot-8 forward this summer to ask him to join their team, he jumped at the opportunity.

Scott, who played five seasons with the Atlanta Hawks and last season with the Washington Wizards, signed...

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DeAndre Jordan’s Tenure with Clippers was Like Watching a Kid Grow Up

It was Chris Paul’s first season in Los Angeles and the hysteria around his acquisition had yet to die down. Of course, there were still questions abound regarding how, and if, a mismatched Clippers roster would enter the fray as contenders.

One of the more pressing concerns was magnified every time either of the team’s young front court tandem stepped to the foul line. Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan were a liability. Reports surfaced throughout that season about how hard they worked at the line. Shooting coach Bob Thate wasn’t in LA yet though, and the work Griffin and Jordan put in saw limited improvement that first season with Paul onboard.

An early sign of frustration bubbled around mid-March with Jordan, then a fourth-year center and oversized, freakishly athletic kid. As the team wrapped up practice and media members skulked into the northwest corner of the court for their NBA mandated practice “viewing”, Jordan had already hoisted at least a dozen free throws on the court furthest from the scrum. That’s when cameras began rolling.

Everyone from bloggers to television stations zeroed in on Jordan, one of two players remaining on the court. He continued shooting, but as the number of active cell phones, big handhelds and DSLRs increased, so too did Jordan’s acrimony. Finally, he lost it.

“Get those [expletive] out of here,” Jordan said to the team’s communications director with enough volume for all present to hear.

It was seemingly the apex of his irritation about an ongoing story about his errant foul shooting. It was a pressure more magnified than any other time in Jordan’s basketball career. The story wouldn’t go away and Jordan had had enough.

To be fair, there were hardly any other options for post-practice b-roll that day. But that was hardly something Jordan would consider. As cameras continued to roll, Jordan lowered his voice and boosted his ire, telling the communications director, effectively: “If you don’t take care of them, I’ll just tell C.P. (Chris Paul). He’ll get you to do it for me.”

The point wasn’t lost. Jordan, a few months after Paul, the All-NBA point guard, was acquired, was feeling alienated. The organization, in his mind, had turned its back on players in order to placate its newest star. What Paul asked for, he received.

It was telling that the longest tenured Clipper realized almost immediately that perhaps Lob City wasn’t necessarily a community built for all. Jordan’s reaction, in the heat of the moment, spoke to his lack of maturity. His relationship with then head coach Vinny Del Negro would dissipate over the next two seasons with much of that same sentiment. The lack of trust went deep—and was felt on both sides.

Flash forward to the summer of 2013, Del Negro was out. Jordan, who had already tried to leave once by signing an offer sheet with Golden State, seemed potentially on his way out, too. Enter Doc Rivers. Within 48 hours of his hiring (or acquisition from Boston), Rivers was meeting over dinner with Jordan. Former assistant coach Kevin Eastman said they spent much of the first portion of the meal discussing “everything but basketball.” Rivers knew he needed buy-in from Jordan. The trust that had eroded in the Jordan-Del Negro relationship would take time to build.

The personal conversation and ultimately straightforward approach to Jordan’s anticipated role set things in motion. But it wouldn’t have been possible without Jordan’s ability to self-reflect. At 24, he was two years more experienced, more mature.

Those next five seasons alongside Rivers, Jordan continued to grow as both a player and a person. His raw numbers, alone, told much of the story. He led the league in field goal percentage for five consecutive seasons, didn’t miss a game for nearly six years, and was twice the top rebounder in the league, topping 15 boards per game twice. In five years with Rivers, Jordan averaged a double-double every season. He was an All-Star in 2016-17. He was thrice an All-NBA player and twice an All-NBA defender.

He anchored the middle of a defense that performed better than it seemed on the surface, especially in the four years with Paul, Jordan and Griffin together with Rivers. He was a talker. He directed traffic, and he went from a guy that people internally thought was babied to someone who was counted on to make pick-and-roll coverage calls, direct traffic and play the role of janitor to mop up at the rim for the oft-gambling perimeter players.

It goes without saying that Jordan hardly became the perfect player as he developed from an asthmatic, No. 35 overall pick in 2008 to an All-NBA first teamer in 2017. He had flaws that still haunt him. The foul shooting didn’t improve until last season (a leap to 58.0 percent after never shooting better than 52 percent in seven previous years as a regular starter). He never developed anything outside of the paint (please don’t suggest his one 3-pointer, which was hilarious, in 2015 counts). His back-to-the-basket game was better in a pinch, but not sufficient enough to ever warrant deliberate touches. He still had his lapses in leadership. And, of course, he tried to leave again in the summer of 2015 until a conflux of barred doors, emoji orgies, and more synchronized Swatches than Parker Lewis changed his mind.

There is likely no player in history more perfectly a Clipper than DeAndre Jordan. He spanned the Donald Sterling and Steve Ballmer eras. He was pre-and-post Chris Paul. His deficiencies were magnified just as much as tremendous skillset. He was at the center of some of the franchise’s most defining moments, from the evisceration of Brandon Knight to leading the call for a boycott of Game 4 against the Warriors in the Sterling aftermath. His rising from second round project to State Farm co-star and All-NBAer make him arguably the best Clippers draft pick of all-time.

His departure, while falling by the wayside in many ways thanks to the relocation of a certain King, is still as deafening for the star-depleted Clippers as anyone else’s has been. He grew up with the team, and the people of Los Angeles. After trying to leave twice before, the third time was inevitable. It’s fitting, though, that in leaving he delivered a dessert truck as a gesture of gratitude to Clippers’ employees. The 22-year-old Jordan, snidely remarking that he was being overlooked, wouldn’t have done that. Nearly eight years later, all packed for Dallas, the bouncy, effervescent kid was all grown up and as proud parents often must do, Clippers fans had to let him go.

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Clippers Fall to Rockets 104-90 Despite Gilgeous-Alexander’s Excellence

The Clippers were outscored by a massive margin from deep, but were led by a phenomenal performance by rookie Shai Gilgeous-Alexander.


Houston got off to an early lead in this one, and never looked back. While the Clippers fought hard all game, and made several pushes to close the gap, their inability to hit threes or keep the Rockets from hitting theirs made a win impossible. Overall, the Clippers were outscored by 30 points from deep— it’s impossible to win games with that massive a gap. The nail in the coffin was a torrid 22-3 stretch by the Rockets from the late 3rd to the early 4th quarters with the Clippers’ starters on the bench, replete with Clippers’ bricks and turnovers. Still, there were bright spots to be found, most notably the play of Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, who dazzled after a slow start.


Superb Shai: Shai got off to a rough start, as he took several poor, low-quality shots in traffic without much chance of success. He came back sharper than ever, however, and put on a clinic for the rest of the game. He moved past every Rockets’ defender on the perimeter with ease, and snuck in layup after layup with crafty finishes around the rim. Shai demonstrated a nice pullup jumper on several occasions, and even busted out a turnaround jumper in the post that looked very smooth (although it missed). He was calm as always running point, getting the Clippers into their sets, and rarely looking out of control. On defense, he was a pest, using his quick feet and long arms to get steals and disrupt passes. But really, that quickness getting to the hoop and his finishing ability once he got there were simply outstanding. Shai has gotten better each game, and looks like one of the best players in this rookie class.

Vivacious Vince: The Clippers don’t have room for Vince Hunter on their regular season roster (barring massive shakeups), but another team should absolutely find room for him in their training camp, maybe even as a two-way signing. He’s athletic, brings a ton of energy, and plays super hard. In just 20 minutes, Vince scored 20 points on 7-8 shooting and collected 8 rebounds. He’s not super skilled, but he can finish inside and has some semblance of handles to take slower players off the drive. As an energy big man off the bench, an NBA team could do a lot worse.

Jumpshot Jerome: Jerome Robinson made a bit more of an impact in this one, scoring 14 points on 6-13 shooting. He made the Clippers’ only two threes, and his form is good enough that his shots look like they’re going in almost every time he takes one. The Clippers continue to use him mostly off-ball, though this could be due to Shai’s excellence and their desire to see him run the offense. Jerome also grabbed a handful of boards and made a couple defensive plays, demonstrating some non-scoring value. He’s been quiet so far, but he’s played well overall.

Thumping Thornwell: Sindarius Thornwell had his worst game of this Summer League, shooting just 3-13 from the field, and forcing the issue on too many occasions. His shot was noticeably off tonight, and he started hesitating late in the game due to lack of confidence. Still, Sindarius brought his usual energy, defense, and aggressive drives to the hoop, and one off-night is perfectly excusable.

Missing Michineau: After playing well in Game 2, David Michineau was less impressive tonight, shooting poorly from the field and failing to demonstrate an ability to run the offense with Shai on the bench. His defense is good due to his size and athleticism, but he really needs to make strides as a passer or shooter if he’s going to make the jump to the NBA.

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Preview/Game Thread: Clippers Face Off Against Rockets in Summer League

It’s the third and final preliminary game for LAC.

After their first two games resulted in a 1-1 win-loss record and some good showing from the Clippers’ prospects, L.A. now plays their final preliminary summer league game in the nightcap on the last day of this round.

They’ll be going up against the Summer League version of the Houston Rockets, headlined by Rockets second-round pick and USC standout De’Anthony Melton, who had 17 points in their second win. Beyond their prospect, the Rockets have a blend of free agents with fringe NBA experience: Markel Brown has over 100 NBA games played, Daniel House Jr. has 24 NBA games played, R.J. Hunter is a former first-round pick who played 44 games across three seasons, and Quincy Miller has 69 games of NBA experience (though none since 2015). They also feature a handful of other Rockets prospects: Chinanu Onuaku, who has been on the roster for two years after being a second-round pick in 2016, Zhou Qi, who was a depth piece for the Rockets last seasons after being drafted and stashed in 2016, and Vince Edwards, who the Rockets traded for in last month’s draft.

The Clippers figure to be back at full strength tonight after resting 13th overall pick Jerome Robinson last night against the Sacramento Kings. Look for Shai Gilgeous-Alexander to continue to become more comfortable with the pace and physicality of the play here in Las Vegas as well. The Clippers have repeatedly stated that they won’t be resting any of their prospects tonight, but that can all change at a moment’s notice. If Sindarius Thornwell, who has been the star of this Clippers’ Summer League, does play tonight, I’d expect the team to scale back his minutes, something they may do for SGA as well on the second night of a back-to-back. Look for the team to stagger Sindarius and Jerome more in an effort to get more possessions for Robinson. I’d also expect some increased run for Jawun Evans and David Michineau, who each found their games in the second half last night.

LATimes Clipper News
Clippers agree to deal with Luc Mbah a Moute

Luc Mbah a Moute has agreed to a one-year, $4.3-million deal to return to the Clippers, according to NBA officials who were not authorized to speak publicly on the matter.

Before playing for the Houston Rockets last season, Mbah a Moute had spent the previous two seasons with the Clippers.


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NBA Free Agency: Luc Mbah a Moute Returns to Clippers on One-Year Deal

The prince is back.

According to Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN, the Clippers and Luc Mbah a Moute have agreed on a one-year deal to bring the defensive stalwart back to Los Angeles.

Free agent forward Luc Mbah A Moute has agreed to a one-year deal with the Clippers, league source tells ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 9, 2018

Luc’s contract will be a one-year, $4.3 million deal. The Clippers have no cap space and this is more than the bi-annual exception is worth, so it’s coming out of L.A.’s mid-level exception. The MLE is worth a total of 8.6 million and was also used to sign Mike Scott, so I expect that Luc and Mike are splitting the MLE evenly.

Mbah a Moute was a Clipper for two seasons, from 2015-2017, before joining the Houston Rockets in free agency last summer.

Luc seems to pretty squarely round off the Clippers’ forward rotation, as he’ll likely play off of the bench behind Tobias Harris and Danilo Gallinari, as well as alongside Mike Scott. However, signing another adds more complexities to the Clippers’ roster spot shortage. The team now has 14 guaranteed contracts, three non-guaranteed contracts, and two restricted free agents with qualifying offers. Assuming that the team keeps at least Beverley and Harrell from those groups, they would need to either make a trade to consolidate talent, or cut one guaranteed salary from their roster. At this point, Sam Dekker appears to be the likely candidate for such a move. RSS
Press Release: L.A. Clippers Sign Forward Mike Scott
The L.A. Clippers have signed free-agent forward Mike Scott, it was announced today by Clippers President of Basketball Operations, Lawrence Frank. Per team policy, terms of the agreement were not released. RSS
Press Release: L.A. Clippers Re-Sign Avery Bradley
The L.A. Clippers have re-signed free-agent guard Avery Bradley, it was announced today by President of Basketball Operations, Lawrence Frank. Per team policy, terms of the agreement were not released.
LA Sports Hub Clippers
Los Angeles Clippers should explore a Tobias Harris trade with the Raptors

In what has become a common trend here at LA Sports Hub, we think that the Los Angeles Clippers are better suited to sell talent, not buy. The Los Angeles Clippers are only setting the team up for long-term mediocrity with the current plan that the front office is initiating. I understand the desire to […]

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Clippers, Led by Thornwell and Gilgeous-Alexander, Top Kings 88-78

The Clippers’ top prospects all seemed to take a step forward in game 2.

David Michineau is back, baby.

The Sacramento Kings set the tone early in tonight’s game: they were bigger and stronger, and second-year forward Justin Jackson was stellar early in the game, keeping the Clippers on their heels defensively. But as the game wore on, the Clippers’ young roster grew into the game, handing the physicality and slowing Jackson down. Led primarily by players who will be on LAC’s roster next season, the Summer Clippers orchestrated a comeback to get the game close at the end of the third quarter, and then ran away with the game in the fourth. They won the period 22-12, reflecting their 88-78 margin of victory.

  • Shai Gilgeous-Alexander: The Clippers’ prize point guard had a much better stat line tonight (21 points, 8 rebounds, 2 assists, 3 steals on 8-16 shooting), but while his talents are obviously on display, I’m still looking for a little more from him. His decision-making in these games is obviously impacted by the players who are around him, but I want to see more of his passing and vision on display. We’ve gotten glimpses of it, but I’d like to see a little more in the coming days. His shot selection, while better tonight, could still use a little work—coach Casey Hill said after the game that “there’s a steak in there, but we have to trim a little fat.” Still, it’s hard to complain about what the 19-year-old guard is showing in terms of poise and leadership.
  • Sindarius Thornwell: It’s always hard to extrapolate meaningful player projections from summer league, but it’s safe to say that players with NBA experience should be a step above the rest—they’re going down a level in competition to play in Summer League. Sindarius still has work to do on his game, but he’s clearly a man among boys here in Las Vegas. While it’s hard to gauge how good he actually is because a lot of what he’s doing won’t translate against actual NBA talent, he’s separating himself from the rest of the fringe guys here, which can only be a good thing. One real note, though: his jumper still isn’t perfect, but his release is notably quicker and smoother than it was last season. He knows that he has to consistently make corner threes to stay on the floor, he’s dedicated himself to improving his shot, and he said tonight that his confidence is at an all-time high.
  • Jawun Evans: I was really disappointed in Jawun’s first game in Vegas, and the start of tonight’s game had me worried. But as the game wore on, he seemed to find himself. The slow start may be a result of rust (he hasn’t played extended minutes since January due to injury), but it’s good to see him get going. He hasn’t separated himself from the pack in the way that Sindarius has, but that’s okay for right now. Jawun’s defense was a big part of what turned this game for the Clippers, and he hit a big corner three in the fourth to keep the ball rolling on the team’s impressive run.
  • David Michineau: Okay, I might be going a little off the rails here, but I was happy to see David get some run tonight after not playing in the first game, and I was especially thrilled to see him playing so well. He didn’t do anything amazing, but he was on the floor and a factor during the Clippers’ big fourth-quarter run, scoring twice on a couple of aggressive drives and adding two assists and a steal. He’s not NBA-ready (and the Clippers certainly don’t have room for another guard), and his situation in France would make a G-League stint a poor financial decision—but it’s good to see a guy who is in the Clippers’ system long-term making progression towards hopefully someday being NBA-caliber. David Michineau is a summer league legend and we must protect him.